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    06-29-2012, 02:03 AM
So is it the mane and tail that make her pali? Why can't she be a perlino or cremello sp? Pinto?
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    06-29-2012, 02:26 AM
She is palomino because it's what she is. LOL I'm not sure how to explain further but I'll try. Palomino is one cream gene acting on a chestnut base. 2 cream genes on a chestnut would make a cremello. If she were cremello she would have pink skin, blue eyes, and would look almost white all over.


Now...one cream gene on a bay horse would make it a buckskin. 2 creme genes on a bay makes it a perlino. Looks only slightly different from a cremello. Perlino's also have pink skin.


You can rule out your horse immediately being cremello or perlino since she is lacking pink skin.

Again...pinto has to do with the markings. Pinto can be further broken down into things like tobiano, overo, splash, frame, etc. Pinto is more of a general term stating the horse has white markings somewhere on it's body (not counting things like face and leg markings). You can have a pinto in any color (black pinto, bay pinto, grey pinto, palomino pinto, etc).

Does that help clarify?

Your horse might even have a little bit of sooty going on making her appear dirty.
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    06-29-2012, 03:30 AM
Yeah, that makes sense Bridgertrot. I can see the sooty too so I guess I'm learning something. I've been on color genetics ALL NIGHT and I am on the east coast! Fascinating! It really is.
    06-29-2012, 10:18 AM
Thanks for all the clarifications! The genetics are truly fascinating!!
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    06-29-2012, 09:36 PM
I should clarify further in saying that your horse does actually have pink skin...but only under the white markings. Like someone said before the palomino is the "cake" and the markings are the "icing".

It would be cool if you can get some daylight pics of her outside too!
    06-30-2012, 11:27 AM
No the horse is the cake the color is the iceing and the patern is the sprinkles.
    07-02-2012, 12:55 PM
She is palomino tobaino. She may have a little bit of countershading. Tobaino, or the overo genes can act on ANY base color, as with any white pattern- rabicano or roan included.

Palomino is a chestnut horse(red based) with one cream gene. Cream is a dilution gene, and it lightens the coat. [bay + 1 cream is buckskin, black + 1 cream is smokey black?, chestnut + 2 cream is perlino, bay + 2 cream is perlino (<3) black + 2 cream is smokey cream?]
A palomino is essentially a chestnut that is heterozygous for cream, and a cremello is chestnut that is homozygous for the cream gene.

Palomino can be light or dark, but is all genetically the same(as with sorrel, flax. Chestnut, and red chestnut). It can range from this
to this:

Remember, palomino is a golden(or light cream color) with dark skin, and a pale/white mane and tail.
Also remember, the horse is palomino with white (tobaino) markings, not white with a palomino patch.

If you can, get the horse and spray her down, you will notice where the white patches are, there is pink skin; where the palomino color is, there will be dark or black skin.
    07-02-2012, 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by TexanFreedom    
chestnut + 2 cream is perlino..
Chestnut with two creams is actually cremello
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    07-02-2012, 01:27 PM
Ha ha, oops, I meant cremello. I don't know how I read over that!

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