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post #31 of 41 Old 10-09-2012, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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this is the sire ... I do not have any good pictures of the dam
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Dont really need good pics, just enough to show color ;)
But yes, i would have to guess that either way the dam is carrying a red gene for the foal to come out palomino. She would have recieved the cream from the sire and a red from the dam

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She would have gotten red from both the sire and dam.
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She would have gotten red from both the sire and dam.
Horse can only inherit one color gene from either parent and she would only need one red and one cream to be palomino. Two reds would have made her sorrel, where as dun is a factor that acts upon a color so it could have attached itself as well

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Lilruffian you are totally confused.

The horse in question received a red gene from both parents. She HAD to, no doubt about that. She also received cream from her sire.

That means that her dam is Ee crcr dd and the sire is Ee CRcr Dd. Both her sire and dam passed their e, and the sire also passed on the CR. the unknown is the dun. The filly is ee CRcr __d.
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Lilruffian you are totally confused.

The horse in question received a red gene from both parents. She HAD to, no doubt about that. She also received cream from her sire.

That means that her dam is Ee crcr dd and the sire is Ee CRcr Dd. Both her sire and dam passed their e, and the sire also passed on the CR. the unknown is the dun. The filly is ee CRcr __d.
ok that makes it understandable. thank you
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Ooop! It just sounds off... thought about it all the way to work lol

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What sounds "off" about it?
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Lilruffian - I think what you're confused about is the fact that black horses can carry red. A horse can either be red/red (chestnut), black/red (black) or black/black (homozygous black). That is why you will ALWAYS get a chestnut from breeding two together - they each only have a copy of red to give. But if a horse is black/red, it will always be a black horse carrying a copy of the red gene. So the mare would give a copy of her red/red (only option is red) and the stallion would give a copy of his black/red. If he gave black, the horse would have to be black. If he was homozygous black, he could only give black. But because the foal is palomino (chestnut base) he must carry a copy of red to give.

I don't know if I made that any clearer, I tried to step away from genetic marker abbreviations.
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LOL I'm dumb, I was under the impression the dam was chestnut. But my explanation still stands in terms if understanding black and red. Just imagine black/red and black/red each giving red!
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