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post #11 of 16 Old 04-11-2014, 01:39 PM
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I just want to say that I think she is really cool looking. I like paints, but she is super neat looking.

I don't know anything about genetics, though. Be careful breeding her if she has lethal white- that's all I know.
Lethal white isn't actually a difficult thing to avoid. If your horse tests positive (or is just obvious based on appearance) for frame overo, you just cannot breed to another N/O horse. Lethal White Overo Syndrome is an O/O horse (homozygous frame). N/O is completely fine.
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post #12 of 16 Old 04-11-2014, 02:51 PM
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Based off this one picture, I'm not surprised she didn't test positive for tobiano. The white isn't crossing over the spine behind the saddle pad and there doesn't appear to be any white in the tail, either. If she has white crossing the spine where the saddle pad is, then I can definitely understand the confusion, but I can't tell from this picture

To me she looks frame (which you've already confirmed) and sabino.

Remember that the other key to preventing a lethal white foal is making sure the stallion is tested negative for it as well. If the stallion is of a breed that carries it, don't take the owner's word for it: demand test results. Friesians don't carry frame to my knowledge, so that would be a safe breeding.
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her official color pattern is over, the white does not cross over her back. She probably also caries splash, as she has the white markings on her face.
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Yep, i'm sold on the frame overo, and maybe a little somethin' else. Thanks for the input everyone! Appreciate it!
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Based off this one picture, I'm not surprised she didn't test positive for tobiano. The white isn't crossing over the spine behind the saddle pad and there doesn't appear to be any white in the tail, either. If she has white crossing the spine where the saddle pad is, then I can definitely understand the confusion, but I can't tell from this picture

To me she looks frame (which you've already confirmed) and sabino.

Remember that the other key to preventing a lethal white foal is making sure the stallion is tested negative for it as well. If the stallion is of a breed that carries it, don't take the owner's word for it: demand test results. Friesians don't carry frame to my knowledge, so that would be a safe breeding.
Not always the case. This guy is tested homozygous for Tobiano, name is Tru One Ina Million:




Honestly I would have guessed tobiano was there as well. The way the spot is forming around her flank made me think that. Very weird. Obviously something else is at play other than just frame because frame doesn't like leg white.
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post #16 of 16 Old 04-15-2014, 01:42 PM
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Not always the case. This guy is tested homozygous for Tobiano, name is Tru One Ina Million:




Honestly I would have guessed tobiano was there as well. The way the spot is forming around her flank made me think that. Very weird. Obviously something else is at play other than just frame because frame doesn't like leg white.
I realize (and should probably have mentioned) that tobiano can certainly appear without crossing the spine or adding white in the tail, but that's the exception, rather than the rule. If you look hard enough, you can find tested tobiano-positive horses than have even less white than Tru One Ina Million. Ultimately with any pinto pattern, you can only guess by looking at them; genetic testing is always needed to know for certain. (And of course, there aren't genetic tests available for all patterns, so sometimes you never really have a certain answer.)

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