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        07-15-2011, 02:12 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    When did Paint horse descriptions become so technical and why?
         
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        07-15-2011, 02:40 PM
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    When did Paint horse descriptions become so technical and why?
    Because breeding "overos" can be extremely dangerous if you are unaware of what you are doing. Splash and sabino are no problems but frames carry the lethal white gene which results in foals being born and having a miserable death if not handled by euthanasia immediately. It can be totally avoided by proper knowledge. Being technical prevents this situation entirely and ensure there is no risk of OLWS.
         
        07-15-2011, 03:39 PM
      #13
    Yearling
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    Because breeding "overos" can be extremely dangerous if you are unaware of what you are doing. Splash and sabino are no problems but frames carry the lethal white gene which results in foals being born and having a miserable death if not handled by euthanasia immediately. It can be totally avoided by proper knowledge. Being technical prevents this situation entirely and ensure there is no risk of OLWS.
    I've heard of lethal white but was not aware it is directly connected to frames. It's interesting and odd at the same time that a coat pattern can be deadly.....
         
        07-15-2011, 03:54 PM
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    I've heard of lethal white but was not aware it is directly connected to frames. It's interesting and odd at the same time that a coat pattern can be deadly.....
    Lethal white isn't merely connected to frame. It is frame. All frame horses only carry one of the frame markers, if a horse carries two of the markers it is homozygous for frame. While homozygous may be something great in tobianos, duns, blacks, etc. In the frame gene a homozygous factor is a guarantee of lethal white. If a foal receives a frame gene from both father and mother it will have lethal white, and die, every single time.
         
        07-15-2011, 07:14 PM
      #15
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    Because Overo is wrong too. Overo covers three different white patterns,

    In an Australian book I have, overo is frame, sabino is sabino and splash is splash. If only it were so simple here....
         
        07-15-2011, 11:51 PM
      #16
    Foal
    She's a beautiful horse!

    I agree with Tobiano and Splash. I don't personally see frame but that doesn't mean its not there. There is a test for frame aka Lethal White Overo or LWO so that helps to take the guess work out of things. If you plan to breed her in the future be sure to test just to be on the safe side.

    Lethal White Overo Article
         
        07-17-2011, 04:54 PM
      #17
    Foal
    She is sooo pretty! I love paint horses' coloring!
         
        07-22-2011, 08:41 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    My guess would be tobiano, splash and sabino

    She does not look frame but it can hide so it is always best to test and be sure
         
        07-22-2011, 09:31 AM
      #19
    Foal
    Looks like Tovero plus Splash,maybe frame too looking at the shape of her spots but only a test can verify it
         
        07-22-2011, 09:36 AM
      #20
    Trained
    Tovero isn't a pattern. Tovero is tobiano + spalsh/frame/etc. (in other words one of the overo type patterns).
         

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