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post #1 of 33 Old 08-19-2011, 08:22 AM Thread Starter
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What pattern is this?

This is my 16 year old appaloosa mare. I am not sure if she was registered, and if she is her papers were never given to the therapy barn that I got her from.

Anyway, I think she started out life as a chestnut and roaned out, but would love other people's impressions of her color/pattern. She is mostly white skin with a lot of black "splotches" under her white coat, most heavily on her neck, chest, shoulders, and "arm pit" area. She has lesser amounts of black splotches on her back and rump. She also has chestnut colored "flea bites" on her, but they are not nearly as regular or numerous as you would expect to see on a flea bitten gray.


Sleepy pony. Insides of her ears are still chestnut, and the outsides of her ears look like what a chestnut turning gray would look like at the stage where you could still tell that they are chestnut, but they are turning gray (if that makes any sense)


Terrible attempt at getting a confo shot. I would get her to set up square, turn around to get the camera, turn back around and she looked like this. I gave up after the fourth botched shot.


This was for a saddle fit picture, but you can see the black spots really well.



And her interesting leg markings:


And, just because she's cute:

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post #2 of 33 Old 08-19-2011, 11:29 AM
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I am guessing that she is really varnished out. If she was grey there wouldn't be any color left by now I wouldn't think.

Just for reference, this is my red mare. A progression of her varnishing up to this spring. I need to put some summer pics of her in it. Phoenix will continue to loose more and more of her color as she ages. (click on it to go to the slide show)
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Hm, that does look a lot like what I am guessing Skye went through. The crest of her neck where the mane grows out still has some chestnut hairs left too, but obviously her mane comes in totally white. What causes the black spots? I find it interesting that they are on her skin but not expressed in her color.

Sometimes I wonder if she started out life looking like this: http://www.gotpetsonline.com/picture...loosa-0021.jpg

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The spots on her skin is part of her molting I beleive. Face would have a better opinion on that one.

As for her leg markings. She has socks. those eraased part of the color and varnish has erased the top part. Varnish tends to leave color on the "hard" parts of the horse to erase last.
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No varnish marks...she is grey...
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Face, her ears and her front legs though... She could have higher whites in the back and a bit of face white. Heck Phoenix varnish marks on her face are disappearing and there is no possiblity of grey in her.
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Face, her ears and her front legs though... She could have higher whites in the back and a bit of face white. Heck Phoenix varnish marks on her face are disappearing and there is no possiblity of grey in her.
I've never seen one color out completely like that that wasn't grey - there is almost always a vestige of varnish on the hip points. Could be though, you never know. I've also never seen one with that much color without mottled skin either. The owner knows I guess, but If I saw him "on the street" I would question him being an Appy at all. He could be PATN-1 with no LP I suppose, but I have never seen one before myself.

I can't seem to put a finger on a picture of Phoenix at the moment. Going to bed shortly, but can you post a picture or PM me one.

To the OP - do you have pictures of this horse when it was younger?
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Lordy Phoenix is going to die of shame that you don't remember her! Lol

This summer (I know not a good one, but shows her face)



This spring before the snow started to fully melt -


And for comparison this was her about 5 year ago


And in this one she was three -



Sorry OP! I hope you don't mind!
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The dark pigment in your horses skin is similar to my sabino paint. He started out as a medicine hat paint with red ears mane and tail. As he got older his mane and body turned mostly white with a red speckled hairs throughout his coat. I know that white horses have pink skin and black speckled pigment in their skin. Look at Peppers chest see the dark spots that is actually his skin not his coat. Pepper gets this coloring from his grandpa another sabino paint called Scenic Jetalito.


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Also are the insides of your horses ears dark red? Peppers are a dark red its the only place that stays red. Perhaps your horse is a paint like mine. Sabinos like to whiten out and what you described an by the look of your pics it reminds me alot of Pepper.

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