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    07-24-2011, 06:36 PM
  #11
Weanling
It looks like it feels textured but it isn't. Before I snapped these photos yesterday I was sure to brush her hair down nice and smooth.

Faceman, she has absolutely no roaning or white hairs.
     
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    07-24-2011, 06:40 PM
  #12
Showing
I would think a roan would have some indication elsewhere on the body....I've never heard of striped roaning before, either. I'm curious as to what the color experts say on this one.
     
    07-24-2011, 06:51 PM
  #13
Weanling
Me too! I'm hoping someone chimes in soon that knows:) It is definitely a pattern of some sort since it is the same on both sides. You can hardly tell she has those stripes now that she has rolled in the dirt again. She loves being dirty.
     
    07-24-2011, 07:15 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by Tabbi Kat    
It looks like it feels textured but it isn't. Before I snapped these photos yesterday I was sure to brush her hair down nice and smooth.

Faceman, she has absolutely no roaning or white hairs.
Yeah, I don't necessarily think that is what it is although you can have dun and roan together - I don't see any other typical evidence of roaning, but the pattern looks much like striped roaning, which is just a striped pattern on the ribs of some roans. It is more often seen in Appy LP roaning, but is sometimes seen on regular roans also. Hard to say exactly what it is...horses originally had much more striping than they do today, but since domestication have not had the need for it so most of it has been diluted out
     
    07-24-2011, 07:29 PM
  #15
Green Broke
You are thinking of the rabicano pattern. But I don't think this particular mare shows any of the other characteristics. But I will also be the first to admit I am not a color expert.
     
    07-24-2011, 07:39 PM
  #16
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
You are thinking of the rabicano pattern. But I don't think this particular mare shows any of the other characteristics. But I will also be the first to admit I am not a color expert.
No, YOU are thinking of rabicano patterning. I am thinking of roan and LP roaning, which is what I addressed, and both of which can manifest themselves in rib striping, just as with rabicano, although not normally as prominant. Why must some people insist on telling you what you are thinking?
     
    07-24-2011, 07:47 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
No, YOU are thinking of rabicano patterning. I am thinking of roan and LP roaning, which is what I addressed, and both of which can manifest themselves in rib striping, just as with rabicano, although not normally as prominant. Why must some people insist on telling you what you are thinking?

Gosh darn! My mistake!

She doesn't look anything like an Appaloosa.

Pray tell what kind of "regular roans" does striping appear in if not rabicano?
     
    07-24-2011, 08:07 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Gosh darn! My mistake!

She doesn't look anything like an Appaloosa.

Pray tell what kind of "regular roans" does striping appear in if not rabicano?
No one said she is or looked anything like an Appaloosa...surely you don't talk for people as well as think for them...

Striping is camoflage, and it is believed that most, if not all, horses originally demonstrated striping or spotting to one degree or another. The vestiges of that appear in many horses today, although as I said in an earlier post since domestication, camoflage is obviously not a natural selection variable, so the trait has largely been diluted out. That manifestation is not limited to rabicano. Even the spots on Appys often tend to follow lines and are thought by some to be broken up vestiges of striping, just as they are with spotted felines.

As I said above, striping manifests itself in rabicano, but is certainly not limited to rabicano alone...in the case of the OP's horse, whatever is causing them seems to be fairly transparent - at least from the pictures. We tend to fall into the trap of thinking a horse is brindle or rabicano or LP/PATN only when it is strongly exhibited in the phenotype. But it can be subtle as well...
     
    07-24-2011, 08:20 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by Faceman    
No one said she is or looked anything like an Appaloosa...surely you don't talk for people as well as think for them...
I thought LP meant leopard pattern. I consider that an Appaloosa trait, although I am aware in manifests itself in breeds older than the Appaloosa.

I thought there were other things that go along with LP, such as sclera, striped hooves, mottling, etc. that I wasn't seeing on this horse, so I wasn't sure why LP was even mentioned.

I am not sure what prompted the rude outburst on your end. I am a pretty mild mannered person. I don't intentionally irritate folks on this forum (or any forum for that matter). So if I miss spoke it was not meant to raise your hackles. That's why I even included the phrase "But I will also be the first to admit I am not a color expert." In case I unintentionally suggested a color or pattern that was not correct in this discussion.

I come here to learn, and I was kind of thinking along the lines of "oh yeah, he means rabicano." Not along the lines of "lets see if I can piss-off faceman."

So I took it as a temper tantrum and rather rude on your part for biting my head off. Even now you are still being rude! And to think, before this I respected you.


     
    07-24-2011, 08:33 PM
  #20
Started
I had a mare that had something like that (thinner though) on her neck,chest,and belly. They were quite textured though....

could she be...brindling?

Your horse has pretty markings whatever they are! You could do a DNA test to see if it is chimeric,but most chimerics have more vibrant two tones. The tests can't guarantee a chimeric either,because even if you send in hair samples from different places it could still be the same horse on those parts and the "other" horse could be on a different body part. AGH...does that make sense? It is the non-chimeric that can (supposedly) pass it on and there really isn't a test for that except to wait and see if foals have it...lol. Haha...sorry if I am rambling ;)
     

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