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post #11 of 33 Old 02-08-2012, 09:46 PM
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was the colt's sire or dam carrying tobi at all?
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post #12 of 33 Old 02-08-2012, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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Don't waste your money testing the colt for Frame. He is. The filly, however, I would test.

CLaPorte - My mare doesn't even have that much. One hind pastern white, a large blaze, and a very little, maybe quarter sized white spot near her elbow and she's N/O.

ETA: Lethal white isn't a disease they develop over time. It's just a mutation within the gene that causes a malformed digestive tract when homozygous. You have nothing to worry about with the colt. :)

I know what you're saying As I stated, I know he's a frame but if I'm going to send samples in to be tested for splash, I may as well find out if he is OLWS postitive (homozygous) as well

I know how horses can test positive even with minimal markings. I just recently came across a site that showed a solid black stallion with only white stockings that sired a maximum frame when crossed with a mare marked the same way! I also came across another breeder's site that has a minimal mare for sale that tested positive for LWO (homozygous).
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If he were OLWS Homozygous he would be dead. OLWS is olny lethal in the homozygous form.

You guy is heterozygous for OLWS/frame.

ETA link to the place that was claiming positive homozygous live OLWS mare please.
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was the colt's sire or dam carrying tobi at all?

NdAppy, yes. His dam is a solid out of overo and tobiano lines. His sire is an overo out of overo patterned lines.
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Has his dam tested positive for tobiano or can you post a picture of her please?
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If he were OLWS Homozygous he would be dead. OLWS is olny lethal in the homozygous form.

You guy is heterozygous for OLWS/frame.

ETA link to the place that was claiming positive homozygous live OLWS mare please.

I'm getting confused on the terminoligy here, lol! Canada and the US word things differently

I know my colt is a "frame overo" in pattern and not a "lethal white". He may or may not however, test to be a lethal carrier (or....sire a lethal white foal). The mare I was reffering to was not a "lethal white", simply tested positive and could produce one.
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Your horse is frame. Frame IS lethal white. You can't have one without the other. It is only lethal in the homozygous (two genes, one from each parent) form.
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Has his dam tested positive for tobiano or can you post a picture of her please?

His dam never "tested" positive but is carrying the tobi gene. She is out of a tobi stallion on the top (mainly QH breeding) and overo on the bottom. Here is the only picture I have of his dam right now:


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Your horse is frame. Frame IS lethal white. You can't have one without the other. It is only lethal in the homozygous (two genes, one from each parent) form.

LMAO!! OK NdAppy Again I think I may be doing/saying this wrong but my point is, without being tested to be sure, he may never sire a lethal white foal right? (lethal meaning, the foal will never survive)

I love you by the way NdAppy, you are to the point all the time!!!
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