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What Specific Kind of Bay is This?

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        10-17-2013, 01:33 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Lexii, since you guys think she's a brown and Verona thought she was specifically seal bay/seal brown in color, would she have matured into a darker color or would she have just gotten darker with winter and shed out to the color she is in these photos in the summer?
         
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        10-17-2013, 01:50 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Brown = Seal bay/brown.

    The lab who discovered/patented the test for the At agouti test refers to it as "seal brown" not seal bay. Seal bay is an old term before the test was available and they were thought to just be darker bays.
         
        10-17-2013, 01:54 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    NdAppy is correct. I use the three terms interchangeably, with preference for seal bay because I think it gives a more intuitive description of what it actually is- a variation of the same agouti allele responsible for 'classic' bay and wild bay- and is a term that many horse people are already familiar with even if they didn't realize it was genetically distinct from classic bay.
         
        10-17-2013, 02:04 PM
      #14
    Foal
    OH! I get it.. at least I think. So you meant that she's a brown horse and her coat is going to remain that color (not get darker except for winter) but since the term "brown" falls in line with seal bay and seal brown, she can technically be all three, or at least the three can be applied to her without being wrong. Did I understand this correctly? (Gosh I hope so, sorry for the newbie-type responses.)
         
        10-18-2013, 02:45 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by NeryLibra    
    OH! I get it.. at least I think. So you meant that she's a brown horse and her coat is going to remain that color (not get darker except for winter) but since the term "brown" falls in line with seal bay and seal brown, she can technically be all three, or at least the three can be applied to her without being wrong. Did I understand this correctly? (Gosh I hope so, sorry for the newbie-type responses.)
    Right- kind of like gray and white. A horse who has grayed out all the way is visually white, and people would know what you meant whether you called the horse white or gray. But if you wanted to be technically correct, the horse is gray.

    "Seal brown" is the technically correct term for your horse, but it often gets shortened to just "brown" and it's generally understood that "seal bay" is the same thing.

    Seal brown horses do have a tendency to darken and lighten throughout the year, so don't be surprised if he seems to be a little bit of a chameleon
         
        10-18-2013, 03:31 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Wonderful! Though she isn't mine (I reallly wish that she were) and I haven't seen her since we were both knocked out of the saddle (pastern injury for her and blown out knees for me) I just wanted to know her color.. I haven't seen her in the winter before. Lol.

    Thank you all so much for your help in narrowing this mare's color down. :)
         

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