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    10-16-2012, 10:58 PM
I wouldn't make a definite decision on whether this mare is a frame carrier or not because I haven't seen pictures, but it sounds like it is indeed possible. Like I said, this white pattern gene is lethal in its homozygous form. If the foal inherits the gene from both parents, its colon will not be developed properly and it will colic to death within 72 hours of birth if not just put down.

Without meaning to sound intrusive, I hope she does know about Overo Lethal White Syndrome. It is not carried by Lusitanos, but since you said that might be wrong, here is a list of horses that carry it:
Horse/Pony breeds with Frame | Equine Color Genetics

It's terribly sad to have a mare foal a Lethal White foal when it is easily preventable. The test for it is available at UC Davis for $25. Frame is also very good at hiding, which is why the test is important. There is a mare on this forum that tested positive and only has a large star.
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    10-16-2012, 11:45 PM
Thanks poseidon. I have done some research of my own and researched olws when I wad thinking about breeding my pinto last year, ultimately decided not to for multiple reasons, olws included as mine is positive for frame. I will definitely my best to educate her as much as I can.

Ndappy, the msre definitely has tobiano as wellwell
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    10-17-2012, 07:36 PM
If I had a blady/white faced mare with NO cancer then I would happily breed her to another stallion (I am would go with a paint) but I am not keen on the idea of someone breeding a horse with cancer full stop but that is opinion.

What do they say about humans 'we all have cancer just depends when it is triggered'

Blady faced horses don't bother me.. probably because I own one! With two blue eyes!
    10-17-2012, 08:04 PM
I would also like to add that this mare's cancer is not unheard of.. It's a type of skin cancer caused by the lack of natural "eyeliner" on the sensitive skin surrounding the eye. It's treatable and then further preventable by the use of a flymask or something that will shade her eyes. Something like that wouldn't stop me from breeding. If this new boarder does still go through with breeding and ends up with a foal with unlined eyes, I would suggest she look into getting them tattooed to prevent cancer in them.

It's just an unfortunate association with that coloring. Same with melanoma in gray horses.
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    10-17-2012, 09:14 PM
Thanks again for the input. The mare always has a flymask on when she's outside. She also has one attached to her bridle.
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    10-21-2012, 09:22 AM
I was wrong about the lusitano breed, it's a black bay andalusian she was going to have her bred to but the lady has not called her back.

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