6 y/o QH stud barrel prospect?

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6 y/o QH stud barrel prospect?

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        08-15-2013, 12:22 AM
    6 y/o QH stud barrel prospect?

    So I looked at this guy today. I'm considering him as a barrel prospect, or maybe as a possible resale. The price is right, and he seems like a nice tempered guy.

    He'd be gelded immediately of course. And I know he needs weight. The sellers claim he is underweight because he paces the fence (he is not used for breeding)

    I wish I had a better pic of him standing properly, and ones of all 4 sides but I only snapped this one quickly. Hopefully it shows up ok I'm posting from my phone...

    I know I see a couple things I don't like, but curious what others see?
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        08-15-2013, 12:33 AM
    I should clarify that even though I'm looking at him as a barrel prospect, it's fairly small time, just local/district level. And yes, he does need his feet done too. And to have the balls knocked outta him :p haha!!

    I'm NOT set on him so please be honest
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        08-15-2013, 08:55 AM
    Green Broke
    He is sickle hocked and has high hock placement. He has a very steep shoulder and a very low angle between the point of shoulder and the elbow. He is built down hill. He has adequate bone. The base of his neck ties in low to the chest. He stands over a lot of ground and is long through the coupling. His croup is short and steep and he has not got a lot of hind quarter.

    I think he is a sturdy horse but he lacks the engine of a barrel prospect. He would probably be an OK ride and sturdy.
        08-15-2013, 09:37 AM
    Green Broke
    I don't see any glaring huge problems, but the main thing I wouldn't like for a barrel prospect is that his hocks are not low to the ground.

    Hindquarters could be more rounded, but I've seen some FAST barrel horses who had a butt like him. I'd be interested to see how he'd look with the proper groceries and more weight.

    How's he bred?
        08-15-2013, 09:54 AM
    IMHO; I'd pass.

    He is not registered, and likely never will be able to be registered. It's a darn shame.

    YOU may not mind a grade horse, but to sell a horse with no registration papers as AQHA and advertise him with a pedigree like they are doing is wrong.

    As a resale project when it comes time to sell remember: YOU SHOULD NOT ADVERTISE HIM WITH A PEDIGREE, he is grade and that's the end of the story.
    No papers means who his parents are supposed to be just doesn't matter. There's no proof to back it up.
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        08-15-2013, 10:27 AM
    I am a stallion owner and he probably is underweight from pacing his enclosure .
    I don't like his hock placement either and he is sickle hocked.
    He would probably be OK for local rodeos and playdays.
    Good luck. Shalom
        08-15-2013, 10:38 AM
    Thanks everyone :)

    Yeah, I'm not great at conformation (still trying to learn!), but I also noted his hocks and the fact that he is fairly long in the body. His half sister out of the same mare is that way too so maybe it runs on his dams side.

    Lopin, the lady did agree to help me get him regd but I just don't know how I'd get that in writing and have it be legally binding...

    Beau, he is not registered and I don't know much about lines, but he is a Hollywood Dunnit great-grandson and a Nu Cash grandson. There may be other names of note in there but I don't know them lol.

    Still undecided (mainly hinging on if I can figure out how to get her claim that she will provide what is needed to register him to be legally binding) but this has helped, thanks all!
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        08-15-2013, 11:16 AM
    Originally Posted by SnowCowgirl    

    Lopin, the lady did agree to help me get him regd but I just don't know how I'd get that in writing and have it be legally binding...
    That's good but if the stallion and mare are not in her name your not going to get very far.

    I would call AQHA and see what it would take to get te ball rolling BEFORE you purchase this colt.

    If she has signed transfers for sire and dam and has to transfer them Into her name, then has to file breeding reports your looking at a LONG time before you see any papers. So hopefully they can skirt around this and help you out.

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    At least according to AQHA pedigree lookup both sire and dam are "Genetic-Typed" so DNA is in your favor already!
        08-15-2013, 11:50 AM
    Lopin, how long do you reckon I'd be looking at? I just called AQHA but didn't ask how long it'd take for all of this lol
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        08-15-2013, 12:17 PM
    Well I got my current gelding 7/19/2013

    I sent in my transfer papers the next day.

    It now 8/15/2013 and I still have no paper work. However when I look him up he is now in my name.

    Last AQHA I had it took about a month also for a simple transfer.

    So I'd say a month for sire and dam transfers, a month for breeding paperwork, and a month for your horses paperwork... Lol

    However like I said maybe there is an easier way and you can send it all in at once?

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