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post #31 of 49 Old 12-11-2011, 08:35 AM
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I'm not wild about quarter horses myself (no offense to people who really like them) but the appendix paintedpastures posted looks really nice!

That said, a few years ago I was horse-hunting for a youngster to break and turn around. I looked at two five-year old QHs bred by a local QH stud and they were NICE. Too nice for what I wanted to do and cost a bit more than I wanted to spend (and they had already been started by their breeder). If I was looking for a horse to keep, rather than one to sell once I'd trained it, I would have snatched one of these up. Lovely horses. I would have forgotten that I prefer bigger, draftier horses if I'd been looking for more of a "long-term" horse. :) Point is, don't write it off because *generally* that breed doesn't suit you.
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With a limited budget, you should be considering a QH... there are lots of Dressage trained, bombproof QHs that can do the second level stuff for sale for the same amount as a well conformed, unflashy unbroken 4 year old wb....
You also cant "cruise" or fake it on a QH you really have to learn how to ride correctly to get the best out of them for Dressage.

I know so many people who have just bought a "warmblood" because of the breed and not looked at conformation or done a really thorough PPE and now, sometimes less than a year of consistent work, they have an unsuitable, sore, pasture pet.
Just because the ad says Warmblood does not mean its above any other breed, especially in a limited price range... for 50,000 yes breeding is a concern but under 10 you just want something sane, sound with decent conformation and broke...
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I know so many people who have just bought a "warmblood" because of the breed and not looked at conformation or done a really thorough PPE and now, sometimes less than a year of consistent work, they have an unsuitable, sore, pasture pet.
Just because the ad says Warmblood does not mean its above any other breed, especially in a limited price range... for 50,000 yes breeding is a concern but under 10 you just want something sane, sound with decent conformation and broke...
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Exactly.................

And to further this you don't need a huge horse but one that fits your profile, be you short, tall or any other consideration.

Getting on comfortably is also major purchase factor especially as you get older.
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Exactly.................

And to further this you don't need a huge horse but one that fits your profile, be you short, tall or any other consideration.

Getting on comfortably is also major purchase factor especially as you get older.
Completely agree.

I was looking for a 16hh-16.2hh youngster with w/t/c under saddle to bring on. Something that had the potential to go the distance. You can say what you want, but sometimes what you need is better.

Don't disregard anything, try out the smallest to the tallest, and sometimes the ugly ones are the good ones ;D
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post #35 of 49 Old 12-11-2011, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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I know that fugly is fine, there was nothing attractive about Mr G's sales ads at all, but I still went to see him...

As to what I really want, a horse with all the substance of Bert here



BUT

Sorry Bert a little more refined, so a bit longer in the leg, etc

with the spirit and spark, and heart of an Ace



With the 'can do' attitude of a G Man



I am usually the first to say to people, look for the horse you want, not the breed, and yes I'm kind of breaking my own rules, and I have nothing against QH's, I believe that they are probably the most versatile horse out...

BUT

*Stamps foot*, it's my party and I don't want one
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Then start saving more money or take out a line of credit is my point....

A cheap warmblood wont get you half as far as a nice "alternative breed" of horse. A good warmblood with the substance, "spark" and can-do attitude you're looking for along with the conformation for dressage and even an ability to only do second or third level is still a 30,000 horse at 5 years old, if it's sound (Caruso on that website).
To find a nice QH or TB or cross that is trained to second level, under 10 years old and still has the substance and possibly more can-do attitude will only set you back 12,000 MAX. The trouble is these guys are hard to find and get snatched up quickly or aren't for sale. So keep your eyes peeled and don't settle for something that is going to be lame, is already lame or is going to max out in a year. It is possible to find something trained and well conformed in your price range, it just probably wont have the worlds best dressage breeding or flashy movement....

They say money doesn't buy happiness -- well happiness doesn't buy horses!
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There are certain realities I have to face as well, and I'm certainly not taking out a line of credit for my hobby, it's not going to happen.

*SIGH* it would be easier to change my riding style, and find a nice cow horse.

LOL, I know it often sounds like excuses, as it always does in a thread when the OP is seemingly not listening, but geographically we are in the middle of nowhere. The horse market remains stronger north of the Border here, then it is to the south, all the ones that have taken my eye in the way of TB, TBxDraft, etc etc, are $5000 for something that will typically jump, but needs more work on it's ground work, and it's not exactly a hotbed of dressage.

There is also the length of time I may want to ride, or compete, well we'll do the best with what we have
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Then start saving more money or take out a line of credit is my point....

A cheap warmblood wont get you half as far as a nice "alternative breed" of horse. A good warmblood with the substance, "spark" and can-do attitude you're looking for along with the conformation for dressage and even an ability to only do second or third level is still a 30,000 horse at 5 years old, if it's sound (Caruso on that website).
To find a nice QH or TB or cross that is trained to second level, under 10 years old and still has the substance and possibly more can-do attitude will only set you back 12,000 MAX. The trouble is these guys are hard to find and get snatched up quickly or aren't for sale. So keep your eyes peeled and don't settle for something that is going to be lame, is already lame or is going to max out in a year. It is possible to find something trained and well conformed in your price range, it just probably wont have the worlds best dressage breeding or flashy movement....

I just find so often that people overlook the gem they have for the shiny diamond in the sky that everyone says they "must have."
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I just find so often that people overlook the gem they have for the shiny diamond in the sky that everyone says they "must have."
I did the bulk of my learning in basic dressage on an unregistered 3/4 QH 1/4 black horse gelding that roped and worked cattle for the first 13 years of his life. He was sound as a rock and had lovely conformation. I won some pretty big awards on him and beat out fancy warmbloods because he taught me that to do my absolute best I had to ride letter perfect with soft, balanced transitions and a fit, well practiced horse. Now that I have the big fancy warmblood you can imagine what solid basics and and understanding of the importance of details has done to my scores along with a nice extended trot (because that's really what the inflated price is for, gaits).

Dressage (especially basic dressage) has very little to do with the gaits of the horse you are sitting on. As long as you have something sound and sane to work with, you're golden. I don't think you're going to get something much flashier than any of the three horses you've already posted without an increase in budget...


For me there definitely came the point where I decided I needed to take my riding seriously and it went from being a hobby to a sport... A line of credit is a reasonable seeming thing to me for buying a horse hahaha :P

Good luck!

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Thanks for the good luck message.

In all the horse shopping I really want is to find one that gives me 'that' feeling, the one that you can't explain and I just don't have it.

I enjoy G Man as he is now, but have zero interest in taking him further, that is difficult to explain, I like him, he is my go to horse when I need someone to pony the other guys about the place, he is far happier in his western tack going long and low. It's difficult to explain, but it's just not working

Bert now, she makes me smile, but she's never going to be a dressage horse bless her.
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