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post #21 of 68 Old 04-26-2013, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
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I'm not trying to be witchy or stir the pot, I'm honestly trying to understand your logic.

Why, when SO many people who know what they're talking about have told you that this horse is not breeding quality and they wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole, are you keeping him a stud? Especially with SO many mediocre studs already out there? There is absolutely nothing special about this horse. Yes, I understand you love him and think he's all that and a bag of chips, but the reality is that he is going to pass on all his undesirable traits to his offspring and the world will end up with even more poorly-conformed horses who can't stand up to their jobs and have to be retired early or PTS.

I just truly do not understand why you think keeping him a stud is a great idea.
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did you not read what i posted? This thread isnt about whether id gwld him or not, because it is not happening. End of that story.
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The thread is APHA Stallion Conformation.

We told you he would make a lovely gelding. He is not stallion or breeding material.

So you acknowledge he has bad conformation but you are breeding him anyway because people will pay. It's very sad. Considering that makes the market for the paint horses I breed go down because it is so swamped with cheap foals on the ground.
I believe i said, if my mare can counter what bad traits he has, than sure ill breed him to her. I dont think anywhere here i said i would keep breeding him rather than to my own mare.
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I believe i said, if my mare can counter what bad traits he has, than sure ill breed him to her. I dont think anywhere here i said i would keep breeding him rather than to my own mare.
Oh, except for the jutlands and your friends who would love the experience of a foal.

Why should a mare have to counter the bad traits? Why can't a stallion just HAVE good traits to make an even better horse?
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You said in another thread you were going to stand him in 2014. Also, NO mare will fix ALL of his faults, which are rather severe. I thought my mare being cowhocked and sightly over at the knee was bad. Your stallion is sickle hocked, looks like an immature two year old, extremely fine boned, has long upright pasterns. Not things that should be passed on, period.
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It is your horse and you can do as you as please, but unfortunately breeding is a crapshoot. Look at the flaws of a stallion and all the flaws in the mare you are breeding him to, chances are the baby can inherit all those. Breeding a horse with long pasterns to a horse with short pasterns doesn't give the resulting foal medium ones, more often than not, the offspring will either get long or short ones. If you want to contribute to the horse world and make some coin, geld him, race him until he's solid, manage his shortcomings with the help of preventative veterinary medicine, he will be worth more money than you are going make keeping him intact. Whatever you choose, good luck, he looks well cared for and trained decently.
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Look hun, you're not doing any good by him by running his legs off. And I know you don't want to hear it, but what is being said here is the facts, you need to face them. He is not anywhere near stallion quality, and should NOT be allowed to breed. You asked for a conformation critique, you got it. You can't reject it because it's not what you wanted to hear. Based on his conformation he should be gelded and not used on barrels. You seem young, so I just hope you mature and come to your senses
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I believe i said, if my mare can counter what bad traits he has, than sure ill breed him to her. I dont think anywhere here i said i would keep breeding him rather than to my own mare.
Unfortunately, even a mare with perfect conformation isn't going to be able to offset the majority of the faults he has. And it's unfair to the mare and foal to experiment with them like that. Besides, with the train wreck that the stallion is, I sadly doubt your mare is much better, if you consider him breeding material.
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Oh, except for the jutlands and your friends who would love the experience of a foal.

Why should a mare have to counter the bad traits? Why can't a stallion just HAVE good traits to make an even better horse?
i have already agreed to cover his mares, so i will.
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Look hun, you're not doing any good by him by running his legs off. And I know you don't want to hear it, but what is being said here is the facts, you need to face them. He is not anywhere near stallion quality, and should NOT be allowed to breed. You asked for a conformation critique, you got it. You can't reject it because it's not what you wanted to hear. Based on his conformation he should be gelded and not used on barrels. You seem young, so I just hope you mature and come to your senses
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Hats not our decision. Sorry. Thr vets said he will hold up fine in barrels, and he gets ran about twice a month. Maybe three. So running hiss legs off, no.
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Unfortunately, even a mare with perfect conformation isn't going to be able to offset the majority of the faults he has. And it's unfair to the mare and foal to experiment with them like that. Besides, with the train wreck that the stallion is, I sadly doubt your mare is much better, if you consider him breeding material.
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Shes very nice. Far better than what i expected. I dont have any pictures of her wihout me on her back, and until after she foals i wont take any pictures to use for conformation. She's a nice mare, people we obtained her from say they regret selling her because of her last foal she produced was nice. And i regret selling the colt she produced. But my mare, is a nice mare.
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