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        06-28-2013, 07:53 PM
      #11
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    Conformation*

    As Endiku posted, when you ask for a confo critique people will typically assume you mean a thorough critique of how the horse will work at the various levels, including upper levels. Almost any horse can jump, almost any horse can jump to the three footer classes, but not all horses can do it and consistently win and move on to the upper levels. You should always take conformation critiques with a grain of salt, and specify exactly what level you're looking to compete
         
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        06-28-2013, 08:06 PM
      #12
    Showing
    You're going to make people mad if you continue to post critiques only to throw it back in posters' faces and try to prove them wrong. If you want a critique, please ask for a critique, but if you're just trying to prove a point, don't post it in this section.
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        06-28-2013, 08:31 PM
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    Green Broke
    Endiku makes a good point. A horse I leased previously didn't have great conformation for jumping but was competing at over 3' on a regular basis. He really seemed to enjoy it and placed reasonably well at shows, but it ended up doing a lot of damage to him and he had to be put on pasture rest for 6 months. When I got him, the lease specified no jumping because of it.
         
        06-28-2013, 09:12 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    I do think that sometimes people get too caught up in looking for the 'ideal' conformation that they discount heart, soul, and passion. My little gelding got a pretty bad confo critique on here, but when I posted a picture of his jumping form in the jumping section, people agreed he was pretty darn perfect. Everyone was pretty astounded when I showed him standing square.

    Just saying, I understand the OP's point, even though they should have gone about making it a bit more gracefully.

    Heres my old thread if anyones interested...

    /Jumping Form Critique
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        06-28-2013, 11:51 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Don't get me wrong, I wanted critique on his confirmation but I also wanted to show people that it isn't everything. If I offended anyone I am sorry.
         
        06-29-2013, 12:13 AM
      #16
    Banned
    I don't this horse is back at the knee-- not to argue. His toes are just too long.


    Appys make for good jumping horses!

    I had a 14hander that loved to jump too.


    I think its kinda rude for some to tell you not to post here!
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        06-29-2013, 09:50 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    I don't think a single critiquer in here has ever said that conformation was the only thing that matters in a horses career. Of course heart and enjoyment for the sport are as important, and in some cases more important than a horse's build, otherwise all those million dollar yearling race horses with impeccable conformation for their sport would go on to be top winners, which of course is not the case. When you come on here we have just one thing (usually) to go on - a few still photos (often taken poorly - not specific to the OP). From that all we can assess is does the horse appear from these few photos to possess the desired traits for the OPs desired sport? Does this horse appear to have traits that are consistent with a successful and sound career? The internal qualities of heart, drive and try can not be assessed from a still photo.

    No critique should ever be taken as 100% proof of anything. We also might say this horse (just an example, not OPs horse) has long pasterns and not suggest jumping - well you can find many long pasterned horses out there jumping and staying sound, but what you wont find at the shows (because they are home heeling or pasture ornament) are all the long pasterned horses that tore a suspensory ligament of have lameness from damage to those long pasterns. Will every long pasterned horse go lame - of course not! Is there an increased risk though- YES!! Should a horse be passed over because it has long pasterns and you want to jump? That is something that only you can decide.
         
        06-29-2013, 12:42 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    To the OP.. it is conformation not confirmation. A horse conforms to a standard.. does not confirm that the standard is right.

    Lots of horses have excelled at things they did not seem to be built for. Lots of race horses such as Exterminator, Sea Biscuit, John Henry.. excelled beyond their conformation.

    Your horse jumps exactly how I would have called it from his photos. The only thing that is could not be predicted is his careful overjumping. And he is over jumping.

    He is flat through the back and lags behind which his conformation would indicate.

    Enjoy him. There are no perfect horses except for your own.... ;)
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