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post #11 of 34 Old 05-31-2012, 06:24 PM
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I don't have much to add since others have covered a lot of it.

Regarding his color. He is Bay. He's not grulla, and not a bay dun. Nor will he shed out to be one. His color right now, is what he'll be as an adult. It's a very pretty color though.

Both his parents are very very nice.
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I asked about the HERDA, the dams never been tested, but I think the sire has (I believe it said so on there website). Anyways she told me if I wanted him tested shed mail me his hairs so I can have it done. Is it normal for the potential buyer to pay for the test, or should the owner. Also is testing for HERDA expensive?
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I don't have much to add since others have covered a lot of it.

Regarding his color. He is Bay. He's not grulla, and not a bay dun. Nor will he shed out to be one. His color right now, is what he'll be as an adult. It's a very pretty color though.
Honestly that's a bit disappointing, the owner and sires owner said he had the barring and dorsal strip, the sires owner said there was more than a 50% chance he'll be a dun.
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The barring and dorsal stripe are more the likely just countershading. I'd bet 80% (if not all) of all horses have some sort of shading, mine all do.

A Bay Dun is this color.



This would be grulla. See how "mousey" or "slate" looking he is?


By the way, those are both by Dynamic In Blue.

$1500 I believe is a perfectly fair price for him.

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I asked about the HERDA, the dams never been tested, but I think the sire has (I believe it said so on there website). Anyways she told me if I wanted him tested shed mail me his hairs so I can have it done. Is it normal for the potential buyer to pay for the test, or should the owner. Also is testing for HERDA expensive?
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I could not find where their website said anything about HERDA and since sire AND dam are both line bred Poco Bueno, I would ask them again about the sire and if they say he's negative, I'd request a copy of his negative test along with the baby's tail hair to test him. The test is only $35 and very cheap compared to the heartbreak of HERDA. Here's a link to the lab:
HERDA - Hereditary Equine Regional Dermal Asthenia

I'm extremely saddened and I'll say it just once, disgusted, that they haven't tested the mare and may have bred her to another Poco Bueno descendant who may or may not have been tested and or disclosed. I also think a whole lot less of them for requiring YOU to do the testing if you want to be safe. As a buyer, that response right there would make me walk and NEVER look back. I don't care if the horse is a carrier, you can always geld him, but to not test and disclose results is absolutely irresponsible when dealing with genetic lethals. Here's a link to an article about HERDA if you're not familiar with it. HERDA

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Yeah, I thought that was a little weird that she expects me to pay for it, especially since I haven't even confirmed I was buying him.
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he is nice looking. If you don't want the expense of raising a baby, maybe you could find an older horse age 2-3 that you could make pmts on.?
You also have to consider that he could injure himself before age 2-3 making him non rideable. Is the owner stating he is bay dun because of the dorsal stripe ? It does not look like shading to me. A diff angle photo would work.
If the Mare is not Herda checked, it would be up to you to have the baby checked. It is also up to buyer to pay for the DNA if required by AQHA. If the mare is not dna'd you may have to pay for that also.

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Over all the colt looks nice. He is a bay not dun. I like the dam. Looks like she has produced well. Sire is not bad. I do not think that $1500 is bad at all considering what the dam has produced. Looks like several of her foals have reining points/earnings. Would have to look her up to see exactly how much but reining prospects bring good money.

As to the cost of buying a prospect vs a finished horse. That can vary. It will depend on dicipline breeding and how well the horse shows vs how well the prospect may show. You can buy a finished reiner for under $10K however those horses are not going to put you in the big money at any show. You might do OK with them in the green reiner but they are going to be lucky to mark a consistent 68-69. Vs a weanling who has the potencial of marking better. If the horse does then he will be work a lot more then that.
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Ok thank you everyone for the input. I may just grab him up and see what this little guy becomes, there's a lot of good feedback on the sires foals from there facebook page, so that's a plus. I also am aware of the potential money that reining prospects could be worth. I think he'd make a really nice all around horse.
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Truthfully I would ask the mare owner if you could lease her and breed her to a nice stallion. She has not produce much but she has 2 foals by some top stallions. One by Genuine Doc and the other by Hollywood Eighty Six. Those though where back in early 2000s.

At the end of the day the purchs price is the least you will pay.

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