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    02-01-2012, 10:48 PM
  #21
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Why breed when there are thousands of horses looking for homes, just MO. I like that you love her, but remember you can't recreate her or the foal she has already had. I would keep it at that and find a horse that needs a home.
     
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    02-02-2012, 09:03 AM
  #22
Foal
No offence, but though I love all my horses dearly, love has little to do with the reason for breeding.

*Mare has good cutting asnd reining confo and bloodlines
* I have every intention of boarding with Trainer on site for up to a year of working cowhorse training
*I own the first foal, and he is a wonderful booy
*Doc Bar this close in a pedigree is hard to find
*Hickory's Indian Pep has NCHA earnings, and has sired money winners, and has the best pedigree match for my mare. Conformation wise, he is strong where she is weak, and vice versa, though neither has GLARING defaults.
*If for some reason it becomes necessary to sell or lease the resulting horse, it will have the breeding and training to easily find a loving caring financially stable owner whether it be bloodstock auction, or private sale.
BTW the reason her first foal was not shown was due to needing a year off as a 2 yr. Old for Jumping a 6 foot stud pen, he skinned his rear legs completely dehiding them. He is now perfectly sound, and being used, however he missed out on his 2 and 3 yr old seasons and wasnt sent to a trainer till he was almost 5. He is now a very smart trick horse, trail horse, and team penner, but will only be shown on a local level and as a kids horse because that's what he likes. BTW he was gelded soon after his accident and would have been gelded after training had he not injured himself.

I know this is lengthy, but I do not want people to confuse me with somone who just wants "a piece of my awesome pet to live on", I am keeping the mare for her whole natural life,( she has paid her own board for many years, I can pick it up now) as well as the 6 yr' old.(He is being leased my neighbor as a trail horse for the spring) I plan on keeping the hypothetical foal it's whole life IF the horse is a good solid using fun horse, otherwise I will sell knowing that I made **** sound judgement in the choosing, training, feeding, and general husbandry of my horse to offer him the best chance at a long happy career.
kevinshorses, DrumRunner and Elana like this.
     
    02-02-2012, 11:13 AM
  #23
Weanling
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Originally Posted by jbolt    
no offence, but though I love all my horses dearly, love has little to do with the reason for breeding.

*Mare has good cutting asnd reining confo and bloodlines
* I have every intention of boarding with Trainer on site for up to a year of working cowhorse training
*I own the first foal, and he is a wonderful booy
*Doc Bar this close in a pedigree is hard to find
*Hickory's Indian Pep has NCHA earnings, and has sired money winners, and has the best pedigree match for my mare. Conformation wise, he is strong where she is weak, and vice versa, though neither has GLARING defaults.
*If for some reason it becomes necessary to sell or lease the resulting horse, it will have the breeding and training to easily find a loving caring financially stable owner whether it be bloodstock auction, or private sale.
BTW the reason her first foal was not shown was due to needing a year off as a 2 yr. Old for Jumping a 6 foot stud pen, he skinned his rear legs completely dehiding them. He is now perfectly sound, and being used, however he missed out on his 2 and 3 yr old seasons and wasnt sent to a trainer till he was almost 5. He is now a very smart trick horse, trail horse, and team penner, but will only be shown on a local level and as a kids horse because that's what he likes. BTW he was gelded soon after his accident and would have been gelded after training had he not injured himself.

I know this is lengthy, but I do not want people to confuse me with somone who just wants "a piece of my awesome pet to live on", I am keeping the mare for her whole natural life,( she has paid her own board for many years, I can pick it up now) as well as the 6 yr' old.(He is being leased my neighbor as a trail horse for the spring) I plan on keeping the hypothetical foal it's whole life IF the horse is a good solid using fun horse, otherwise I will sell knowing that I made **** sound judgement in the choosing, training, feeding, and general husbandry of my horse to offer him the best chance at a long happy career.

^-- Jbolt , I agree with your post. I know I said not to breed her but that's ones opinion, and Kevinshorse(?) Maybe a great point. Your reasons for wanting to breed her are very well thought though :) I don't know where the other posters thought you were breeding for a "part of your mare", cause you never once said that in your posts. I also looked at the stallion link and he's gorgeous! Nice cow bloodlines He has a nice performance record, and the fact that your ready to accept the foal no matter how it turns out.

Your definitely not thinking this half-assed, very well thought out.

I think for her joint problems or arthritist , you could add a simple glucosamine supplement to help with that, but i'm sure you know that already :)

Best of luck with your mare (and foal if you decide to breed)
     
    02-04-2012, 03:53 AM
  #24
Foal
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I don't see anything that screams "breed me" but there isn't anything terrible about her either. I don't think her age or the changes to her joints would prohibit breeding. Doc O Lena was foundered so bad she could barely walk and she had two foals. You might have heard of them Dry Doc and Smart Little Lena!

I'm kind of the opinion that there are a lot of horses to choose from right now and it would be much cheaper and faster to find one you liked and buy it rather than trying to raise one yourself. It takes much less time and you get to pick the color and the gender.
This is more just a small correction, and I'm sorry if it offends anyone but POCO LENA was the mare that foundered and the two foals were DOC O LENA and DRY DOC. Sorry, just had to mention that.
     
    02-04-2012, 04:02 AM
  #25
Foal
This is the pedigree of the most recent horse I bought Impressiveking Olena Quarter Horse
I paid $600 for him, he has some pretty good lines and I didn't have to worry about the stud fee, vet bills, paying his feed until he was almost two, etc.
OTOH, we also had a very nice filly born to us last April too, so it's really up to you. With the market how it is you can go find good bloodlines and confo for a cheap price, or you can breed your mare and roll the dice. Whichever you choose, I wish you luck. (:
     
    02-04-2012, 07:51 AM
  #26
Green Broke
As I said first.. with cutting horses the genetics count. I do not see weak genetics here.

You are not breeding or buying "just a horse." It sounds like you are setting a foal on the ground that might make NCHA money. When you are breeding with a goal like this, it is much more business oriented.

It is like breeding Thoroughbred race horses. You are probably going to have to breed a winner unless you have thousands (sometimes millions) to buy one that is winning.

It is unlikely for you to pick up a cheap claimer and have him suddenly start winning stakes races or allowance races. It may be more likely to pick up a cheap horse that has cow.. but you may have to go through a few. The mare you have has Cow and the Sire has Cow.. and both have shown talent to do the job.. won money and so forth.

Just be sure to send me photos of the foal!!!
     
    02-04-2012, 09:07 AM
  #27
Showing
She doesn't stand out as spectacular and I'm seeing nothing seriously wrong with her. She is a candidate for developing arthritis but it doesn't appear to be a problem yet. Your vet can provide the best answer regarding breeding her, regarding her age and health. If you are considering breeding her with the intention of keeping the foal, then go for it.
     
    02-04-2012, 10:31 AM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by missnashvilletime    
This is more just a small correction, and I'm sorry if it offends anyone but POCO LENA was the mare that foundered and the two foals were DOC O LENA and DRY DOC. Sorry, just had to mention that.
You're absolutely right! I realized that after it was too late to edit and the thread had moved on.
     
    02-04-2012, 10:53 AM
  #29
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by missnashvilletime    
This is the pedigree of the most recent horse I bought Impressiveking Olena Quarter Horse
I paid $600 for him, he has some pretty good lines and I didn't have to worry about the stud fee, vet bills, paying his feed until he was almost two, etc. ...
I can't remember if you have ever stated, but what is his HYPP status? ETA Scratch that google just brought up that you did. I changes allbreed to show that so it quits getting asked.



OP - I really like the look of your mare and I agree with the others who have said you have vaild/good reasons to breed.
     
    02-04-2012, 11:25 AM
  #30
Foal
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
I can't remember if you have ever stated, but what is his HYPP status? ETA Scratch that google just brought up that you did. I changes allbreed to show that so it quits getting asked.



OP - I really like the look of your mare and I agree with the others who have said you have vaild/good reasons to breed.
Yes, I had her tested because she has one poco bueno line close enough to matter, and also, Oswood Stallion Station demands testing of mares that may be carriers.
     

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