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post #1 of 5 Old 01-29-2014, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Barrel or Penning prospect?

I was just wondering what my girls would excel at, conformation wise... I was thinking about getting into barrel racing and team penning, or one or the other.

Breeze (black) is bred for, from what I know about her dam, western pleasure. She is a grade, so I will not be able to enter breed shows with her, but Breeze is the 'look at me' type, and whenever in front of people she likes to show off, or set her loose in an arena and she will lope around the rail in an attempted collection. Breeze is also cowy and will attempt anything if I ask her to. She also makes nice turns (based on watching her in her paddock), very fast and has a nice stop... I have even seen her do sliding stops in her paddock on her own...

Promise (palomino) is mainly a cutting bred quarter horse. She will try anything and is very quiet. I was thinking she would make a good penning horse based on the way she is bred. She doesn't spook easily and if unsure of something, she won't make a big deal and gets over her fears very quickly.

If Promise will make a good penning prospect, or even cutting, I will send her for professional training in that dicipline.

If Breeze will not make a good prospect for either, I will use her as a trail horse, and maybe the odd local western pleasure show, but I am not a fan of the slow western jog and that really slow western lope.

Sorry for the saddle in my only conformational pics of Promise. But here they are.

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post #2 of 5 Old 01-30-2014, 11:42 AM
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They both have fairly decent conformation, however i personally like the palomino's build over the black's. The back mare appears to stand under herself a bit whereas the palomino is straighter with shorter cannons. She also has nicer depth through her chest for her size (the black is not bad, i'm just comparing the two and not in general to other horses of the breed)
As for discipline, neither appers to have any severe or serious flaws, so what you should plan for them depends entirely on the horse. Do either like fast work? Does either prefer working with cows? Have you tested them out in either area of cattle work or barrel racing? How old are they? Breeding papers are merely a guidline and bragging rights for some. They do not tell whether the horse will be good at anything.

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I don't have any suggestions, but wanted to say that they're adorable. <3 Subbing, as I'd like to hear people's opinions.

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They are not the best conformation pics, and I can't really tell anything specific from them, but both horses look to have decent conformation. I don't see any huge flaws.

My first question for you: Do you want to do breed shows? If the answer is yes, then I would automatically tell you to go with Promise so that you can do the breed shows.

If you don't care whether you do breed shows or not, then you have a harder decision.

It is difficult to tell what a horse will be good at, based only on papers. Cutting-bred horses can make excellent barrel horses not because of speed, but because of their quickness in the turns.

However, you don't know Breeze's sire side; only the dam. And you don't know WHICH western pleasure lines, because some of them have performance points too.

I would say get the horse that has the PERSONALITY you like better. Because it's a complete toss up as far as which one is going to be better at barrels and penning.

If resale value is of any importance to you, I would go with the papered horse. IMO it is easier to resell a horse that you KNOW exactly how old they are. Grade horses you can only guess at their age.

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Thanks for all the replies! I am eager to get more opinions! As for some questions asked...

Breeze is a coming 3 year old (2011) purebred quarter horse, but was not registered and I do not know who the sire was. I have given up trying to find out who he was, so Breeze will forever be grade... she is my forever horse and I am wanting to try different things with her, including barrel racing. She has speed and loves to run around, and she is also very cowy...

Promise is a coming 4 year old (2010) registered quarter horse. I have only had her for a short amount of time (Just over a month) and I am still getting to know her, but she was around cattle before I got her, although I am not sure if she is cowy or not. She runs around with the other horses, but she is a bit on the lazy side when I am working with her... I am trying to get her to be a little more active.

Both horses are not started, but they will be by the summer, so for the first year, at least, they will just be trail horses, and get a more solid foundation before I move onto teaching them, or sending them off for training in a more specific discipline.

As for showing... I am wanting to take Promise to AQHA shows around Saskatchewan in this years show season to participate in Halter classes, if she will be good at it, to get her use to the show scene... and maybe move onto showing undersaddle next year, or in a couple years time.

As for Breeze, since she is not registered, I cannot compete with her in AQHA shows, so I will be taking her to local open shows when I can to participate in Halter, and in a couple years, undersaddle. I am trying to get into the show scene myself, but I am also interested in doing something with cows, and team penning is what caught my eye the most. I have always had an interest in barrel racing.

Promise may be for resale, as was originally planned, but I have grown to like her a lot and think she may be good for me, but resale is not out of question, and if I do sell her, she will go for more money if she has some professional training on her, so I was thinking about sending her to a reputable trainer to be trained for penning, sorting, cutting or something like that.

Again, sorry the pictures are not the greatest.
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