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    04-27-2013, 09:13 PM
  #21
Yearling
If a horse needs injections to stay comfortable, they are not technically sound.... JMHO of course
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    04-27-2013, 09:26 PM
  #22
Yearling
That's the way I feel, as well. Especially at the young age of 13-14.
     
    04-28-2013, 07:43 AM
  #23
Started
For what its worth. I have an older standardbred mare who is now 28 who raced a lot who benefits from hock injections to keep her comfortable. Our 24 year old gelding who raced for 14 years does not need hock injections at this time. His mother who died at the age of 34 did get injections to keep her comfortable from the time she was 32 on. I am not sure how often and if they were injected at the track. In my book, if you have a horse in its young to mid teens that needs hock injections to be comfortable its not worth it. A horse is still in its peak as far as usability in its teens. In addition, hock injections are a wooly subject some horses they last a long time in and in others its not so much.

I am not a big hunter/jumper but what they look for are horses with nice movement. If they start doing fences they want a horse that won't break down.
     
    04-28-2013, 09:18 AM
  #24
Trained
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Originally Posted by soenjer55    
Her hocks are really straight, which isn't really a good thing for a barrel horse. It's good to have a slightly downhill horse for barrels, so that's not something I'd worry too much about. Her bone could be a bit heavier, IMO, but her canons look short enough front and back and her pasterns are nice in the front- not so much in the back, they look a bit long. Overall, her back legs are just not very nice at all...
I don't think it's fair to her if we pass a verdict when she's this young and without any decent conformation pictures. Is it possible to at least get better pictures of her? She looks like a nice horse, and I'm not sure if it's the angle or not but I like her big, open shoulder.
How far do you want to go with barrels? Just local competitions, or do you want to get serious? I'm not sure if she'd be a good horse for serious barrels, but she's not a bad-looking horse either. Still, she's so young, I don't really want to judge her too much...
"Its good to have a slightly downhill horse for barrels"

Majorly incorrect. Just like any other discipline, a horse I'd going to be harder to collect and get under himself if he's downhill. Stops are much harder on a downhill barrel horse. Its just dang hard to use the hind end properly. I'd much rather have a level or uphill build horse for barrels then a downhill one.

I too, prefer a horse that's slightly sickle hocked to straight/posty legs!
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    04-28-2013, 10:55 AM
  #25
Showing
I'm sitting here, scratching my head and wondering why you would choose a very strenuous discipline and then decide to put an animal with conformation that will predispose her to injuries in most disciplines into something as taxing as barrel racing. In my opinion, horses that run barrels need to have stellar hind ends to give them the best chance at remaining sound throughout their lives.

I can understand hock injections on a seasoned show horse that's getting older and needs that extra precaution to keep him comfortable (though even then I would try jont supplements first), but to bring a horse into training KNOWING that, because he has a weakness in a very critical area, she will need hock injections at such a young age is shameful.

Why not make her a trail horse, or just a very nice and reliable w/t/c Western horse?
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    04-28-2013, 12:46 PM
  #26
Weanling
I don't think people have been reading through the rest of the comments made. I've recently just asked how she'd due in these four things, -Halter, Western Pleasure, Hunter (low fences), or I really can't remember the name...the english flat class, Equitation?
     
    04-28-2013, 04:57 PM
  #27
Yearling
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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
"Its good to have a slightly downhill horse for barrels"

Majorly incorrect. Just like any other discipline, a horse I'd going to be harder to collect and get under himself if he's downhill. Stops are much harder on a downhill barrel horse. Its just dang hard to use the hind end properly. I'd much rather have a level or uphill build horse for barrels then a downhill one.

I too, prefer a horse that's slightly sickle hocked to straight/posty legs!
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That would be why I said slightly downhill- in my experience, I've always found that the ones that are just a bit downhill do best, and all the horses that I've ever seen at top levels have been slightly down hill. That's just my opinion, though.
     
    04-28-2013, 06:38 PM
  #28
Showing
My apologies; I only read the first two pages.

While you will need to be careful of asking for too much with her hind legs, I think she could do Western Pleasure or English Pleasure/Hunter Under Saddle at the local levels. Equitation is judged on the Rider's form, and many horses that don't quite have the movement for EP but are responsive and easy-going under saddle do well at that. I would wait until she grows into herself to consider Halter, but Showmanship is definitely something you could be working on with her right now. The patterns required for SMS are good basics for general ground manners.
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    04-28-2013, 07:16 PM
  #29
Weanling
Thanks guys, I just finished lunging her in the roundpen. What bugs me, is when she's square you can barely tell her hocks are straight unless you follow a mental line. Anyways, I've been searching for some horsemanship trainers to help me out or something around the area. Not many and the ones are so expensive it's ridiculous. Anyone have any videos that could help me out? Never really ventured from the world of barrel racing, pleasure, or hunter. (Barrel racing the most)
     
    04-28-2013, 07:20 PM
  #30
Weanling
I know they have a competition around here called horsemanship, what exactly does this consist of?
     

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