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post #11 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 09:56 AM
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Dr. Deb Bennet has awesome books on form to function if you find yourself questioning if the horse your looking at may not be the best. There are lots of conformation forums out there to learn from too. If these mares are your first consideration for your boy, take your time when buying a mare, she is 50-60% of the mix. Your stallion has some nice points, really scrutinize what you want for him to put into the mix and don't buy a mare that will work against his best traits. That special mare should only strengthen his weak points. And always look at the grown babies of the mares, if they aren't matching your ideal, keep looking and enjoy the saddle time with your boy while you do.
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post #12 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 10:33 AM
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Uh. Sorry. But there is nothing special about either of those mares in my eyes..

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post #13 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 10:44 AM
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You know, my best advice to you would be not to breed them, and possibly to get your stallion gelded. There are a huge amount of unwanted horses... it seems to me that breeders who breed simply to breed are the source of this, you know? They're cute and all... but maybe it's best if we just don't breed these horses.
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post #14 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 12:10 PM
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Don't hate the stud, though I agree I wouldn't breed him in this economy. Plus there are already about a trillion QH floating around out there, the most overproduced breed there is, IMO. Don't like the paint mare at all, harder to tell anything about the black one. I would ask myself--what am I adding to the gene pool to benefit the breed? The answer here would be "nothing".
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post #15 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
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We took over a ranch a few months ago so I have not taken any professional pictures of our horses yet. Those are to come very soon for our website. Still new to all of this but practice makes perfect and working with horses is my passion. Im learning about genetics, conformation etc but takes time so that is why I'm asking questions. I know our stallion is worth breeding. He is one of the very few papered stallions to come off the Huntsville Prison Farm and was purchased at a very rare "premium auction". I'll put a link below that talks about their horses, the link is very sad though because recently kill buyers got their hands on these horses. His babies are beautiful with very good dispositions (known in the Hancock line). Pictures of a few listed below (not professional pics). Thank you for pointing out issues with the mares.

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www.horsebackmagazine.com/hb/archives/10126

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post #16 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 03:15 PM
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Those babies are not exceptional by any means. I still stand by what I said before: It'd be best not to breed them.
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post #17 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 03:46 PM
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He's actually a fairly nice run-of-the-mill type stud (not bad conformation by any means, but not exceptional, either), but now that I know where he came from, that's actually an excellent reason NOT to breed him--particularly with so many related horses going to slaughter. That right there should tell you they aren't in very high demand or very valuable. Looks and good dispositions are extremely commonplace today. Athletic ability, suitabilty for particular disiciplines, and soundness are just as important--no, even more important--considerations.
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post #18 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Horses like him are sought after around here (Prison horses). They are super work horses and are push button. Our stallion was a prison gaurds work horse who patrolled the fields all day long along with working cattle. No one knew that those horses were going to be there. If they did I believe none of the horses would have made it into the hands of a kill buyer. Last year when that happened the drought was really bad and the only people at the small auctions were kill buyers. Of course they snatched up those horses because they were healthy and could make more money on their weight. We have a few good broodmares that were here when we took over and a few we took out of the mix so we were looking for a few to replace them. Over the last two days I have done a bunch of research and see what everyone means about the mares. I think we are going to wait until next year for the AQHA Best Of Remuda Sale consignment (we missed this years). We really like some of the Waggoner and 6666 Quarter horses. We want to turn out really great foals each year with just a few mares so we can really concentrate on high quality and not quantity.
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post #19 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 06:38 PM
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We want to turn out really great foals each year with just a few mares so we can really concentrate on high quality and not quantity.
The two mares you posted would add quantity not quality to your program. There's nothing special about them. Just baby makers.

As far as the foals he's produced...They might have nice dispositions and personality, they are cute...But I honestly wouldn't give them a second look if I was in the market for another horse.

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post #20 of 28 Old 01-25-2012, 06:56 PM
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Were you looking to make money with this breeding business? I will say, iterate what everyone else here is telling you and the rest who haven't posted are thinking....you will be stuck with horses that no one will buy at a profit to you. Your stallion is pretty decent for sure, but the babies posted are just average horses that no one can make money on, just loveable regular horses, no profit for you, only work & more work. If you want to get your feet wet in the breeding business, you did ok with the stallion, but acquire a mare with a superb show record, also a proven producer. Campaign her baby and go from there. Otherwise you're chucking your money away and causing yourself more work.
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