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post #11 of 37 Old 10-09-2013, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you thank you thank you guys! I will back off this one. I really appreciate your feedback. Frankly my budget is about $5k and for that kind of money I really need a bombproof finished horse. Is that too much to ask for in California?????? Prices are ridiculous and my search continues....

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post #12 of 37 Old 10-09-2013, 06:29 AM
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Honestly, for $5000 and for what you are looking for, you should be able to find a horse that has a solid foundation in training, a good brain, little to no bad habits and as close to push button as a horse could be (meaning they are still living creatures who can decide to do or not do something you want).

You really should be able to find a horse that fits well within your needs for around $3000-3500, especially in this economy. And if you don't care about breed or registration papers, that number could decrease even more. You really are looking for a solid, safe and sane mount and there are a ton available out there, you just have to keep looking and know what you are looking for.

Have you looked outside the Bay Area at horses? Stockton, Bakersfield, maybe even down near Sac or SLO? If you increase your search range to some of these areas, you are going to open up a whole new price range, a ton of horses, and maybe find what you are looking for. The money you end up saving on the purchase price can be used for transport, if you don't have your own trailer, and dropping a good 30-90 days on them if they need some fine tuning for you.

Good luck regardless! I'm sure you will find what you are looking for soon!
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post #13 of 37 Old 10-09-2013, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Yes yes and yes ;)

I am trying to be as open minded in my search.

I am giving myself a 200 mile radius. I have no trailer, but there are plenty of people I know who can :)

One horse that I REALLY like was this little girl...

Triton Morgan Horses

She was pulled away from her lunch to give us a ride, no lounge, and saddle put right on. In a snaffle and martingale (which I would want to do away with martingale). She is broke to ride and drive, but her owner has more of that kind of super close contact with her. I would have to have her retrained to my happy loose rein western pleasure.

Her brother is at my barn and went through the same training, now a year later. He's a great little trail horse and very kind. She was referred to me because of her VERY mellow, kind demeanor.

I just have no experience with Morgans, but she seems very sound, good feet and GREAT mind. Perhaps I should move in this direction...

(I was told she's been on the market for a while and I could probably get a good reduction in cost) I would put her in 60 days of finishing/tuneup with the remainder of my budget :)

She is a bit rusty as the owner has had kids taking lessons her her. She is in need of a tune up but a good horse is there.

What is your experience with retraining from close contact to relaxed Western pleasure? I found out the dressage trainer at my barn is starting to teach western dressage... and I'm on board. I could either have her retrained with the lady who has been helping me...who has a cutting horse background, or with the trainer that my friend uses who has the dressage background. Any thoughts on this?

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post #14 of 37 Old 10-09-2013, 04:53 PM
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She looks like a nice enough horse but all I couldthink was "OH SWEET JESUS what is that torture device attached to that bridle?! And with that much contact?! Poor horse!"
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My niece has always had Morgans and swears by them.....raised her kids with them, and does everything with them. I would think that she might work nicely......sure sounds like it. THe way her rein is is really just about how the Morgan folks ride their Western pleasure horses....a little different from the QH circles. I just double checked my nieces photos, and yup-that is how they are. But hers also do really well in other classes and have made great all around horses. She also trail rides. I do know she has one that is not for the faint of heart, but she has 2 mares who are lovely. Good luck! She is a pretty girl!
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post #16 of 37 Old 10-09-2013, 11:33 PM
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^^Yep, that's just what's done in Morgan circles. I don't necessarily agree with it as I was always raised that a curb bit should be ridden on loose reins, but since I'm not in the Morgan world, I can't really say much else.

She looks like a very sweet mare and the fact that they've been using her for kid/beginner lessons says a lot about her temperament. Her confo isn't perfect, but I don't see anything that would keep her from being a very nice ridden horse for a lot of years. Go and try her out and see what you think!
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what smrobs said haha. I like her looks. Maybe not OUTSTANDING confo but definitely looks like shed make a great all around girl to have fun on. Can't hurt to check her out
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post #18 of 37 Old 10-10-2013, 12:41 AM
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Have you tried the Bay Equest? That's where I found Sock, there are LOTS of for-sale ads for the bay and surrounding areas. There were a great number of horses in Brentwood and Modesto areas, Gilroy, Santa Cruz, some even a little further out. It was by far the best place that I searched since it was all relatively local. Check it out! Bay Area Equestrian Network - On-line community for horse enthusiasts in California. Horses for sale, business listings, events and more
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post #19 of 37 Old 10-10-2013, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info on Scarlett,

She is a VERY nice horse, I rode her and so did my daughter. She feels as safe as a seatbelt. Right out of her stall, pulled away from lunch and no lounging. She's very sweet, good feet and fantastic ground manners. Again, she's so far my top choice but would have to retrain for Western pleasure (and possibly Western Dressage as we have a dressage trainer here!)

I am unfamilar with Morgans in general. What would you critique about her conformation, just out of curiosity ;) Nothing that would potentially turn into a injury? (like weird hocks that are prone to injury)?

I really like her. Needs a tune up but I can probably get a good price on her due to the rusty training and the owner is trying to sell her. She's dead set on a good home.....which she would be our one and only princess pony :)

....glitter hoof polish and all !!!!
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post #20 of 37 Old 10-10-2013, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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...oh yes, when I test drove her, I asked for a snaffle. I figured I needed to test drive with the least in her mouth possible. (And obviously without stirrups because I couldn't reach!!! LOL)

Her trot was very pleasant and smooth. She's more whoa than go :)

So would you guys say that 2 months of full time training would get her off a "close contact" riding to western pleasure? I am hoping that I can send her off for 2 months and get a western pony :)
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