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    03-18-2012, 12:07 AM
  #11
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One of the things I've noticed about several QHs is that they've got these gorgeous solid bodies... but on spindly legs and teacup hooves. It just looks "off" to me. What lines tend to have more substance to the legs/feet? Are there certain disciplines that downplay or emphasize solid legs and feet?
     
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    03-18-2012, 12:10 AM
  #12
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Here's a power butt:

She doesn't have great confo, but she's built for power. I'd own a hundred of horses like her if I could.

Now, this mare doesn't have anything that screams power or anything. She isn't built for instant speed like the mare above. But, this mare does have some speed, you just gotta build her up to it.


And this mare is built all around for speed and power.
     
    03-18-2012, 01:00 AM
  #13
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Eolith    
One of the things I've noticed about several QHs is that they've got these gorgeous solid bodies... but on spindly legs and teacup hooves. It just looks "off" to me. What lines tend to have more substance to the legs/feet? Are there certain disciplines that downplay or emphasize solid legs and feet?
Now that has to do with some of the bloodlines.......such as a lot of Halter bred/show horses have these big 16hh+ draft bodies on toothpick legs and triple ott feet. But if you look at roping, barrel, cutting, reining horses you see they have a lot more bone. I don't know why but it seems the halter world (I know not all) seem to like this big hideous beefed up horses on thin legs and small feet. We only have a few horses on our place that are a double ott.....the rest are in 1s or Otts and have BONE when we look at a horse to buy as a prospect or a broodie we look at bone, if they don't have bone or have small feet we run away.

So like I said it has a lot to do with certain breeding.....and if a horse has a lot of run (more of a TB build running body) you will get he thin legs and little feet. But if you go down South to the big time QH races those horses are built like brick houses and solid with great bone and feet.

So just depends on the individual horse....just like people some have bigger bone structure then others and is in every breed, not just QHs.
     
    03-18-2012, 06:08 AM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by BarrelRacingLvr    
Now that has to do with some of the bloodlines.......such as a lot of Halter bred/show horses have these big 16hh+ draft bodies on toothpick legs and triple ott feet. But if you look at roping, barrel, cutting, reining horses you see they have a lot more bone. I don't know why but it seems the halter world (I know not all) seem to like this big hideous beefed up horses on thin legs and small feet. We only have a few horses on our place that are a double ott.....the rest are in 1s or Otts and have BONE when we look at a horse to buy as a prospect or a broodie we look at bone, if they don't have bone or have small feet we run away.

So like I said it has a lot to do with certain breeding.....and if a horse has a lot of run (more of a TB build running body) you will get he thin legs and little feet. But if you go down South to the big time QH races those horses are built like brick houses and solid with great bone and feet.

So just depends on the individual horse....just like people some have bigger bone structure then others and is in every breed, not just QHs.
Yes, I've seen some of those toothpick leg/tiny hoof horses...

Our mare, Mandy, has a very nice 'classic', muscled QH body, big butt and chest/shoulders, solid powerful legs, great feet, and a pretty good bloodline. Sorry she's not squared up...we were actually teasing her the day I took these.

Ultimate Fleet Paint


     
    03-18-2012, 10:22 AM
  #15
Yearling
QH confo

Different QH are built and bred for different things. These are photos of my QH mare I owned quite a while ago. She is huge, built like a tank, and she needed to be. She is a cow horse, so she is fast and quick to cut and chase, and she is thick and strong to rope and hold 'em down. Many people thought she was a gelding poor girl...

(excuse me for not having good pics-these are about 3/4 years old and I don't own her anymore)
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    03-18-2012, 10:40 AM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by BarrelRacingLvr    
I am a barrel racer so I might want a different built horse then some other QH owners.....

-Good big hip
-Shorter Back
-Good Slope to there Shoulder
-Long Underline
-Level (Not uphill or downhill built)
-Nice even hocks with his knees
-Low Hockset
-Good neck (not to short or long)


A well rounded horse that I see as Barrel Horse Conformation would be Bully Bullion



He has

-Great Slope to his shoulder (what you want to see in speed events)
-Nice Big Hip (power house to really use his hind end)
-Shorter Back (keeps him athletic and wouldn't interfere with his performance)
-Good Underline (Able to really reach)
-Nice set neck
-Nice low hocks (Able to get under himself and work)
-Level (but would like to see his hocks set just a TAD bit more even with Knee)
-I also would like to she a tad bit shorter pastern.


And for a barrel horses there are things you do NOT want....such as a downhill horse. People who say that obviously have never ridden or know how a barrel horse should work. If a horse is downhill what are they going to be working off of more? There front end so they are not going to be able to get their hind end under themselves they need to to really work around the barrel. And is going to cause their knees to break down a lot faster from the jarring in the long run.

You don't want a long back or a super short back....a long back would be like having a 18 wheeler turn sharp VS a Sports Car turn sharp...the Sports Car is going to turn a lot faster. Same with a short back, a horse with a short back is going to get caught up and loose a lot of bend in their ribcage causing them to run stiff.


So you see the conformation Bully Bullion...now I am going to show you horses with some faults. Now I couldn't find a horse with all of the things or close so will be posting individual photos....

Small Hip- This horse has a much shorter hip then Bully Bullion does, so would have less power in the Hind End.


Long Backed-
This horse has a long back and a small hip...


Straight Shoulder- Which will cause a short choppy stride and a rough ride.


Those are some of the main ones to visualize.....

And I don't really start looking at a young horses conformation till they are at least 2yrs old because then their growing has some what evened out at one point. But I want to see the same as I would in a grown horse....

Hope this helped :)
YES it did help! Also what about the less then desirable necks on the pictures you posted?

Also to QHrider the horse in the second picture does that horse have a long back?

Thanks all, this has really helped me "see" the difference, and I hope it has helped others too. I've never really "seen" the difference,so I didn't really know what to look for.. This has been really great keep it up!

Cowgirl92- At first I thought your mare WAS a draft! Could she run fast?
     
    03-18-2012, 11:17 AM
  #17
Yearling
girl that horse had speed and stamina. She could work cows all day long and be ready at 7 a.m. The next morning rarin to go. I actually ran a qh race in our town with her and won 1st place one year and 2nd place the next LOL

The neck of a qh needs to be thick, muscular, and tie in well to their chest. The horse in the 2nd photo has all the muscling on the top of the neck, muscling needs to be throughout the neck to provide better movement, horse in the 3rd photo has a nice neck, but her back is long and she has a small hip, so she wouldn't be able to reach under herself that well and would therefore be slower. Because of her lacking a large hip and the nice qh butt, she also lacks power. If you ever see a qh take off at a full run you will see that they rock back onto their haunches and more or less "launch off", with their first stride being a huge one. Watch some qh races or rodeo events and you will see what I mean. If you want to see the qh butt in action, go to a rodeo! Lol

K so the horse in the last photo has wayyy to straight of a shoulder for a qh. Qh usually travel in 2 ways: they either have a huge stride from using their hindquarters, so they kinda "gallumph" along, or they have the nice chill movement. The horse in the 3rd photo would have a short choppy stride, and his front legs wouldnt be able to reach out as far as fast for him to really kick it in his qh butt and move. He has a nicely muscled neck, but its a bit short for my liking, and its also kinda skinny if you get what im saying. It makes him look out of proportion- skinny neck, big head in comparison to the neck, and quite honestly that horse looks like an awkward qh/tb cross to me lol but don't take my word as truth, im not the best confo except when it comes to qh because that's what I was raised around and for. I know what a good working horse looks like and that's about it
     
    03-19-2012, 11:26 AM
  #18
Foal
Barrelracinglvr is being modest by not posting a pic of her horse. I'm linking to her thread as I think this horse screams "what you want in a QH"

Conformation Critique
     
    03-20-2012, 11:02 AM
  #19
Yearling
Hey I found this youtube video, that might help some of the others that wanted to know about the quarter horse conformation...
Reining & Cutting Horse Conformation... Good Or Bad? - YouTube

I just watched it today. Tell me what you think? I know it's for a horse that is a reiner/cutter but someof the stuff he points out applies to all quarter horses right?
     
    03-20-2012, 11:13 AM
  #20
Yearling
SV Farms Paint Horses
Is this horse what you're talking about when you say "spindly legs and teacup hoofs?"

Sorry 'bout the double post
     

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