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        11-27-2011, 02:19 PM
    I think so too, but you're completely right about everything you said. He seems like such a great horse. My own horse lately I've had to face cutting back on how much and how hard we ride, he is getting older and is starting to get arthritis. You just have to put your horses needs above your own, and it's hard for anyone, including me.
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        11-27-2011, 02:37 PM
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Amp, I think the OP bailed, which is such a shame.

    Cowboy shows as well every indication of being a beautiful soul, a loyal friend and a level headed partner, and such things are beyond price.

    IF you were showing pics of him being used in a walk trot situation, if he belonged to an older, small frail person who wanted a level headed trail mount, we would all say, good on both of them. As a lead rein mount to let little kiddies have their first safe walks on a good old horse, then once again a perfect match.

    What is frustrating is that you are lucky beyond all belief to have one of the kind souls of the horse world, and you choose to take advantage of that nature, rather than looking at HIM and saying what is best for HIM.

    Believe me, whatever anger and frustration that you feel reading our responses, is magnified may times at this end, where so many people just truly don't understand why you don't get it.
    I very much agree GH. I own several "oldies" and there will come a day when they will have to be retired completely but that's part of horse ownership. My old man would still happily jump, run speed events or go to a penning, but with 30 knocking on the door that would be wrong of me to ask of him. It's about knowing their limitations and doing right by them.

    I'd see no problem at all with him being used lightly for flat work. The exercise would more than likely be beneficial but not so much to be detrimental, which is surely what jumping will do. He may not act in pain now, but years down the road is when the impact will be seen.

    If he were mine, he'd be doing walk/trot and taking care of little one's with his saint disposition. I'd certainly not push him or take advantage of his willingness in an effort to keep him happy & sound for as long as possible.

    OP, if you do read this, don't get offended by the posts and statements. Everyone is legitimately putting Cowboy's best interests at heart.
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        11-27-2011, 03:15 PM
    That's one of the wonderful, albeit sad, things about a will injure or literally kill itself if asked, and man has a nasty habit of taking advantage of that...not to say the OP is taking it that far, of course.**see note 1

    It is human nature for man to seek and relish power, and for many of us the power to control a 1200 pound animal is gratifying and a bit exhilarating, however it is prudent to use that power wisely...

    **note 1...With that being said, there are exceptions - especially among Appys. Casper has told me on several occasions he is not "that kind of horse". When pushed too far he stops and requests a family meeting...
        11-28-2011, 07:46 AM
    Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
    A horse refuses jumps mainly out of lack of confidence.
    Or because the pain is such that they can not ignore it in that situation.

    From the videos, Cowboy does not scream hunter to me. Not at all.

    I do agree that he is a kind soul.
        11-28-2011, 08:36 AM
    This again? There are plenty of sound riding horses in the world, this just makes me sad. You can get five of them for free if you look for 26 seconds. I'm not entirely sure why I even bothered looking at this thread.
    As for a critique I think the freeze frames show you what you need to know about your jumping.
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        11-28-2011, 11:42 PM
    Just to be super clear... the attached pic is the very first time I had ever jumped "big" a couple years ago. 3'6" in front, 3'9" in back and I made my trainer tape measure it to be sure. (5 foot standards)
    3'6" is big. Noticeably so.

    I would also like to thank Bubba for posting those pictures. I haven't ever seen something like that. Interesting to be able to see it so clearly! I myself, don't think I would jump a horse with a back like that. Eeek!
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        11-29-2011, 11:19 AM
    Wow. This thread makes me sad :( Why can't he just be a lovely trail horse instead of a jumper? A horse with that kind of heart would make an amazing one. And make do competitive trails? Not sure what is all asked there since I do Dressage, but surely it wouldn't be as taxing as jumping.
        11-29-2011, 11:45 AM
    Before this thread, I had never encountered or heard of a horse having a roach back. And, as I've said before, I'm not a big jumper because my horse isn't trained for that yet and not many horses at my barn are jumpers at all.

    When I critiqued this before, I commented only on his obvious willingness to jump, and didn't take the roach into consideration (since I didn't know what it was). However, once I took a second look at the videos, I still noticed a horse with the will to jump, but on the few videos with landings, I did notice he seemed sort of stiff in his hind end and it was more difficult for him to move off from the jumps.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that my prior critique was wrong and not well justified considering all things weren't considered and that I've learned something new (as I have been daily since joining the forum)!
        11-29-2011, 12:13 PM
    Sarah, you were not wrong in saying he jumping willingly in those videos. He jumps because he is a good horse who is trying his best to please. Willing and doing it well and correct can be polar opposites too.

    That in no way means he should be jumping.
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        11-29-2011, 12:38 PM
    Hes got a lovely pop! :)

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