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post #21 of 29 Old 02-27-2012, 09:59 PM
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I do love him.... I had to make a difficult decison and give up on a horse that was too much for me even though confomationaly he was PERFECT and he moved like a dream. Had all the right moves except he was unpredictable (reared and kicked he in the face) and I traded him for Diesel. Best choice I've ever made. Diesel has his faults but he has been helping me regain trust with horses. Which to me makes him worth his weight in gold. Every day with him makes me remember why I started riding in the first place.
I commend you on the choice that you made. It takes a big person to admit that their current horse is too much for them.

And if that horse is helping you regain your trust in horses and teaching you and learning with you...his conformation doesn't matter. He's perfect for you!
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post #22 of 29 Old 02-27-2012, 10:13 PM
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I do love him.... I had to make a difficult decison and give up on a horse that was too much for me even though confomationaly he was PERFECT and he moved like a dream. Had all the right moves except he was unpredictable (reared and kicked he in the face) and I traded him for Diesel. Best choice I've ever made. Diesel has his faults but he has been helping me regain trust with horses. Which to me makes him worth his weight in gold. Every day with him makes me remember why I started riding in the first place.
I'm going to agree with KSG here! The last picture with him under saddle makes him look much better. I can still see the faults I pointed out before, but it's not so obvious in this picture. He does look a little hip high compared to his withers but, as always, it can always just be the ground he is standing on. He does look heavy in the front end because the picture makes him look "downhill." His shoulder angle is probably what makes his natural collection and headset "upward" rather than level or downward.

He looks lot like a horse at my barn named Pita, who is also a paint that is built really funny! Pita is 16.1hh and very loooong with short legs. They almost have the same coat color and markings.

It was good on your part to go for the horse that suits you and your riding level better, even if the horse isn't the greatest looking horse. My first project was a big unregistered arabian/appaloosa cross that I instantly bonded with, and my trainer at the time begged me not to get him. There were so many registered purebreds I looked at but none of them felt like the right fit or I felt like they were too much horse for me. I had a low budget so most of them weren't trained well. I went with the ungregistered Araloosa and I still have him to this day. :) I showed 4-H and open Zone with him and did very well. He taught me almost everything I know. I've been through several other horses now, showing in breed level, and Sonny is now retired as a school horse. He and I relax on the trails a lot these days.

When it comes down to it, having the "right" horse makes him into the "best" horse even if other people don't see it. I'm glad you and Diesel have a good relationship. You and he will teach each other so much during the time you are together. Someday your level might rise higher than he can go, but it's not a negative thing. When you get to that point in your experience, you can look at him and smile knowing he's the one that got you there.
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The very best horse in the world is one that helps you gain your confidence. As long as the horse makes you happy at this level of your training - he is perfect.

I like his markings...have a good time with him!

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post #24 of 29 Old 02-27-2012, 10:26 PM
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I do love him.... I had to make a difficult decison and give up on a horse that was too much for me even though confomationaly he was PERFECT and he moved like a dream. Had all the right moves except he was unpredictable (reared and kicked he in the face) and I traded him for Diesel. Best choice I've ever made. Diesel has his faults but he has been helping me regain trust with horses. Which to me makes him worth his weight in gold. Every day with him makes me remember why I started riding in the first place.
Awwwww that is really awesome! Isn't that feeling amazing? Well good for you, and like CLaporte said he is perfect for you conformation faults and all! There are some really great conformation critiques on this forum so I bet if you posted more photos you could get some great feed back. I had a mini who had pretty good conformation but the angle of his hip was off just enough it made him uncomfortable to pull a cart. He was such a sweet little thing he never protested but I started seeing little signs that I confused for other things. I took him to a great chiropractor who said he couldn't handle the stress of digging in with his back end to pull a cart. Long story short he recommended a few different exercises I could do with him to specifically work his hindquarters to build
Muscle where he needed the extra support. He is now doing great and has no trouble at all! I guess the point that I have obviously failed at making is that every horse has faults and but there is always something you can do to improve and work around them!
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Thanks everyone. I was a very confident rider but a kick to the face changes EVERYTHING! I felt like a failed him because I rescued him from a family who had horses dying from malnutrition. I fell in love with him and fought to own him knowing he had issues but I never expected his issues to be that bad. I kept him for 8 months after my injury and everyday I wanted to ride but couldnt gather the courage. I had friends tell me I gve up too soon but they just didnt understand. Its something you don't understand until it happens to you.
This is another picture I took today. Sorry he's not square. But atleast he looks more proportionate ;)

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post #26 of 29 Old 02-27-2012, 10:43 PM Thread Starter
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I commend you on the choice that you made. It takes a big person to admit that their current horse is too much for them.

And if that horse is helping you regain your trust in horses and teaching you and learning with you...his conformation doesn't matter. He's perfect for you!
Thank you It was tough!

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I'm going to agree with KSG here! The last picture with him under saddle makes him look much better. I can still see the faults I pointed out before, but it's not so obvious in this picture. He does look a little hip high compared to his withers but, as always, it can always just be the ground he is standing on. He does look heavy in the front end because the picture makes him look "downhill." His shoulder angle is probably what makes his natural collection and headset "upward" rather than level or downward.

He looks lot like a horse at my barn named Pita, who is also a paint that is built really funny! Pita is 16.1hh and very loooong with short legs. They almost have the same coat color and markings.

It was good on your part to go for the horse that suits you and your riding level better, even if the horse isn't the greatest looking horse. My first project was a big unregistered arabian/appaloosa cross that I instantly bonded with, and my trainer at the time begged me not to get him. There were so many registered purebreds I looked at but none of them felt like the right fit or I felt like they were too much horse for me. I had a low budget so most of them weren't trained well. I went with the ungregistered Araloosa and I still have him to this day. :) I showed 4-H and open Zone with him and did very well. He taught me almost everything I know. I've been through several other horses now, showing in breed level, and Sonny is now retired as a school horse. He and I relax on the trails a lot these days.

When it comes down to it, having the "right" horse makes him into the "best" horse even if other people don't see it. I'm glad you and Diesel have a good relationship. You and he will teach each other so much during the time you are together. Someday your level might rise higher than he can go, but it's not a negative thing. When you get to that point in your experience, you can look at him and smile knowing he's the one that got you there.
Yep. It feels good to be able to relax and ride instead of worry about what issue to tackle next.

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The very best horse in the world is one that helps you gain your confidence. As long as the horse makes you happy at this level of your training - he is perfect.

I like his markings...have a good time with him!
Thanks! I like this forum You all are soo nice and supportive!

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Awwwww that is really awesome! Isn't that feeling amazing? Well good for you, and like CLaporte said he is perfect for you conformation faults and all! There are some really great conformation critiques on this forum so I bet if you posted more photos you could get some great feed back. I had a mini who had pretty good conformation but the angle of his hip was off just enough it made him uncomfortable to pull a cart. He was such a sweet little thing he never protested but I started seeing little signs that I confused for other things. I took him to a great chiropractor who said he couldn't handle the stress of digging in with his back end to pull a cart. Long story short he recommended a few different exercises I could do with him to specifically work his hindquarters to build
Muscle where he needed the extra support. He is now doing great and has no trouble at all! I guess the point that I have obviously failed at making is that every horse has faults and but there is always something you can do to improve and work around them!
I used to want to compete at more advanced shows but now that I have a horse I just enjoy being around competition doesnt matter to me as much :)

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my boy is longbacked, toes out in the front, and looks more like a grizzly bear than a horse most days, he's so freakin hairy. But to me, he is the prettiest pony evar. I am sure your boy is the same way to you! Doubly so because of what you've described...

I was bucked off my first horse and broke my ankle and a couple ribs. Confidence shattered, I questioned whether or not to continue with horses. Then came Smoke, my gelding. He changed it all.

Maybe the ugliest horses have the prettiest souls!

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Im glad you stuck with it! We are so lucky to have those life changing horses to make up for the ones that make us wonder why we love horses in the first place! :) Im sure I will own my gelding until he passes. Hopefully he will be the perfect mount for my future kids :)
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so while brushing him I decided to step back and examine the proportions of my lovely pony and I have decided SOMEHOW the pictures of my horse look WARPED! From tail to chest he is about my arms span a little more actually and from nose to chest he is the lenght of the tip of my fingers to my chest.
I took this picture from farther awar with a 5ft5in rider (my sister) You can see his proportions MUCH better!
Pssst...I am 5'2' ;)

Glad you posted the picture I sent you :)
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