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post #1 of 12 Old 05-12-2013, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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Critique for my 4 years old OTTB

Hi, this is Spartacus, a 4 1/2 years old OTTB. We saved him from slaughter. He wasn’t much of a winner in the track, and is one eyed. Definitely there wasn’t much of a future for him. We live in Panama and jumping and English style riding doesn’t have many fans. The idea is to keep Spartacus and teach him to jump and use him some day for schooling.

His last race was 45 days ago. We gave him 15 days of rest and started doing some ground work, and this weekend we rode him for the first time. He is doing great, a little lazy and laid back, but he is getting the idea that he has a new job.
I´ll be posting some pictures with his trainer the day we picked him up, a video of the day we left him in the paddock and some pictures of his first ride.


Would love to receive some critique about his conformation. (I know pictures are not the best but hope they ll give you an idea of the horse.









First dayu in the paddock where he stayed for 15 days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQkUZWiEG3I



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post #2 of 12 Old 05-13-2013, 12:15 AM
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Well, he certainly was one of the lucky greys... what beautiful, clean-cut dapples! My arabian kind of skipped that stage and went straight to freckles. 15 days doesn't seem like that long for him to rest though, I know very little about OTTBs but that seems a bit short to me.
From bottom up, he has nice, short pasterns with good slope. His canons seem long all around, especially in the back, but his back legs look like they're very correct angle-wise. His front legs look straight enough in the first two pictures, but he looks to be very over at the knee in the riding pictures... I'm not sure what to make of that, I'm too much of a conformational amateur. Maybe it's the shadows playing since his legs are black. His forearm is short, and he looks like he's set under himself. His shoulder is straight (and a bit small IMO), and his neck looks set on a bit low to me. His withers look okay, not too big but still there. He has good depth to his girth. His back looks very short to me, and I think he might have a roach. His hip is nice, although his croup looks really steep in the riding pictures. He's built pretty downhill. Overall, a handsome boy.
I am definitely not an expert in the field of conformation, so keep in that in mind- if someone comes and says I'm wrong, I most likely am. :)
-edit- and welcome to the forum, thank you for sharing your handsome new boy!
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post #3 of 12 Old 05-13-2013, 12:19 AM
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He's terrible and you should give him to me. ;) Haha.

I'll wait for the better confo-critics to weigh in, but other than his downhill build I really quite like him! I'd be interested to see more squared-up pictures.

I love his movement and sass! I've never seen a TB flag and prance like that before! Although in the one moment where he walks/trots towards the camera, he seems to place his forelegs laterally... might just be the excitement/nervousness of a new place (changing direction quickly, etc). Can't wait to see more video!

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Really nice horse from what I can see. Knees and hocks a bit high.

A conformation photo would help. Nice floating trot.. a little up and down as opposed to reachy.

He looks to go back to Mahmoud... just has that look. Can you post a pedigree? Mostly curious.

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post #5 of 12 Old 05-14-2013, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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Really nice horse from what I can see. Knees and hocks a bit high.

A conformation photo would help. Nice floating trot.. a little up and down as opposed to reachy.

He looks to go back to Mahmoud... just has that look. Can you post a pedigree? Mostly curious.
Yessssss!! his father (Evaristo) goes back to Mahmoud

EVARISTO (PAN) gr. H, 1995 DP = 6-2-7-1-2 (18) DI = 1.77 CD = 0.50 Career Earnings: $365,712

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His mother was Linea machete
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Yessssss!! his father (Evaristo) goes back to Mahmoud

EVARISTO (PAN) gr. H, 1995 DP = 6-2-7-1-2 (18) DI = 1.77 CD = 0.50 Career Earnings: $365,712

Evaristo Horse Pedigree


His mother was Linea machete
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Here an old picture of mahmoud, quite alike!!

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Wow. I'm impressed, Elana! xD

I like this guy, minus his back and the funny way it goes into his croup. He sure seems like a charcter, and I'm glad you gave him a chance! We have a coming two year old TB colt who is one eyed as well, and I'm curious to see how well he adapts.

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He looks just like Mahmoud, wow!
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post #9 of 12 Old 05-16-2013, 09:21 AM
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FWIW the DAM goes back to Mahmoud and the Sire goes back to another truly fine horse.. Hoist the Flag.

Yeah.. I know my Thoroughbreds. Best horses on earth when bred well. LOL

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BTW this is what PREPOTENCY is about. This is why, if you are looking at a foal you cannot guess what he will be.. but if you can see half siblings, dam and sire and any of their relations you can get a pretty good idea. Mahmoud was very prepotent and is often in the lines of Thoroughbred Hunters who are winners over fences in the ring. Some are conformation winners as well.

Your horse had "the look" and the color.. but it was mostly the look that Mahmoud is so known for.

BTW Hoist the Flag was prepotent for speed through the female line (something a little interesting). I had an opportunity to buy a broodmare once that was by Riva Ridge out of a Hoist the Flag mare. She was a mere $4500.. this was back in the 80's.

Shoulda bought her.............................

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