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post #1 of 6 Old 09-14-2013, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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Smile Critique my Draft x TB colt?

Hey guys, I just joined this forum. I wanted to know what everyone thinks about my 1.5 year old Spotted Draft x Thoroughbred cross colt. His name is Philippe (like Belle's draft horse from Beauty & The Beast) . I am planning on using him for dressage, some shows, and trail riding. Possibly jumping, if he seems to enjoy it, but that's a long ways down the road!

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the not so professional pictures!

Right when I bought him as a yearling:

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post #2 of 6 Old 09-14-2013, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
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Also, can anyone tell me what color he would be considered? Is he a dark bay, or a seal bay? Or something different? He is a lighter brown, almost cream, underneath and on his muzzle and I'm not sure what that would be called. Thanks!

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Howdy and welcome to the forum! Always glad to see another member with a draft cross

Your boy is gorgeous! It can be really hard to critique a growing youngster because they can go through some really wonky looking stages LOL. The only thing I can see right now that I really don't care for is that he appears to be a little light on bone in his legs and he may be a little behind at the knee...maybe. Of course, it could just be the angle of the picture or the way he's standing.

He appears to have good angle in his shoulder, his back appears to be nice and short, his croup is a bit steep but it's not weak. He's got nice angle in his hocks. He's also got a good set of withers for a draft cross. You likely won't have to deal with the slipping and sliding with your saddle .

As for his color, he's a bay or brown with a heavy dose of Pangare. Pangare is what makes his "soft" points so light colored. Most likely that came from the draft parent as that gene isn't terribly common in light horses. Not unheard of, but not common. The pangare is most often seen in Belgian draft horses and if the spotted draft was part Belgian, that would explain it.

He's one heck of a gorgeous boy and I would love to watch him grow up.
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The lightness on his belly/muzzle is known as pangere or mealy (two terms for the same thing). Because of the dark color with red highlights that he gets in winter he would be a brown, rather than a bay (who stay bright red year round) So my vote is brown with pangere.

Unfortunately head down photos are not great for critiques. He looks like he will be a big boy with lots of growing left to go. Can't say more without better photos.

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He is gonna be pretty when he is done growing ! My Draft crosses grew until age 7-8.
He reminds my of Suzy a belgium cross. The light color is from the Belgium.
I'm not a color genetics, but I would call him a light bay, His color will probably change some as he gets older. He sure is a cutie !
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Thanks guys! Now I know what color to finally call him haha. I didn't mention that he's technically 3/4th draft and 1/4 TB. His mom is a Thoroughbred & Belgian cross, and his dad is a pure Spotted Draft, which makes sense why he has the pangare.

Thanks for all the positive comments! I'm so excited to see him grow up! He is my second horse ever, and my first that I've raised myself. My first horse was a loving & goofy, but VERY high strung OTTB. Having a calm baby is very different, but also very nice. :P
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