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    12-28-2011, 12:20 PM
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Showing
Critique on my mares

Feel free to rip them apart. I'd be curious to hear if you think one (or both) is downhill... Sorry for not the best critique-quality pics, but mom couldn't position them the way I wanted (especially the qh that just tacked all legs under herself when was asked to back up to square).
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    12-28-2011, 02:13 PM
  #2
Weanling
Paint mare....short back, decent hip, looks like she's pigeon toed in the front. Back legs look good to me. Hard to tell much about her head/neck from the pics. Overall I like her much better than the QH mare who is very long with a crappy rear end (poor hip & croup, very posty back legs). QH's neck could be longer, decent shoulder, looks over at the knee too me. Neither one looks downhill to me.
     
    12-29-2011, 03:13 PM
  #3
Green Broke
The paint is slightly pigeon toed as Bellasmom said. However, apart from that she has relatively good conformation.

As for the QH, slightly sickle-hocked and cowed out in the back feet. Sharp slope to the croup but a nice deep girth and good shoulder.
     
    12-31-2011, 11:18 AM
  #4
Foal
Both horses look like they have a short neck & back.
Both horses look like they need a trim and feet are not balanced,giving the appearance of the paint toeing in slightly on the front feet, QH toeing out on the hind feet.
Neither horse has enough muscle on the fore & hind arms for me.
     
    12-31-2011, 03:37 PM
  #5
Started
I agree. I think the matter of the Paint toeing in is just a matter of needing a decent trim. The Paint needs her inside toes taken back, the QH needs her back toes shorter. All in all agreed, they do not look like balanced feet and they are due for a trim.
Both look like sturdy riding horses. Nice shorter backs, the Paint has the better rear end and looks decently balanced over all. The QH is a longer horse with shorter legs, her neck could be a little longer. I wouldn't say that either of them are build town hill and both are proportionate, pretty girls IMO
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    12-31-2011, 09:15 PM
  #6
Foal


Based on this image only.

Super hindquarters providing absolutely max
Hind power. Long upright arm (Humerus)
Encouraging a forward stride and longer
Underline. Shorter cannons match deeper girth
Match nicely adding stride strength. Well shaped
Head. Certainly possesses ample potential
Based on these images.
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    12-31-2011, 09:25 PM
  #7
Foal



Plenty of foundation QH features including
Short cannons, stockier limbs, very deep girth
And strong/reasonable hind that has some
Slope. Strong muscle type. Good extra long
Shoulder blade. Long body which matches
Nicely with shorter and strong neck. One rear
Cannon not quite lining up 100% although
The other appears OK and that may or may not be
Due to the stance on the day.

Both of these certainly appear as western
Types ideally. The top one also comes with
Perhaps a touch of jumping ability although
The appearance of the heavier body diminishes
This somewhat. Two western goodies.
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    01-05-2012, 12:11 AM
  #8
Foal
Interesting color, I like
     
    01-06-2012, 04:42 AM
  #9
Trained
Both are functionally a little downhill, with the stifle higher than the elbow. I don't like the sorrel particularly but I love the paint. That's based on shoulder and hindquarter angles, the paint's angles are much better for a functional, comfortable mount.

Wither to croup appears fairly level but that's not the only factor considered when we look at whether a horse is downhill or not. Both horses have a downwards slope to their backs from croup forwards, and this combined with the higher stifle and lower elbow create a functionally downhill horse.
     
    01-06-2012, 05:37 AM
  #10
Showing
Both of them are relatively level for stock horses, the paint a bit moreso than the QH. Both show good bone in their legs with good, solid, big feet.

I adore the conformation on your paint. Legs appear to be good and straight with wonderful hock and pastern angles. The front legs themselves don't appear to be turned in but there appears to be evidence of a slight pigeon toe on the hoof wear, though that may be caused by her movement alone. She has a wonderful wide base, both front and back. Great shoulder and hip angles, short back, nicely muscled topline. It's hard to guess her neck length, but it appears that it is proportional. I see a very athletic mare that has the potential for just about anything you would want to do.

The sorrel is less ideal but still not bad. She is very thick through her neck/chest with a relatively short neck. Her back is longer than ideal. Good angles on shoulder and hip though muscle mass doesn't match, she's lighter on her hind end. She is a bit over at the knee and, apparently, likes to stand camped under on the hind . Nice mare that, while likely not as athletic as the paint, should be able to do whatever you want with some work.

Her conformation is more typical of what you would see in a western working quality QH. It's really no wonder it's taken so much work to get her to collect like she should, she's just not built for it.
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