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post #21 of 29 Old 02-09-2012, 05:49 PM
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edit: now that I look a little more it looks like its just dirt.....that one picture can be a little deceiving though :)
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post #22 of 29 Old 02-09-2012, 05:53 PM
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Is that what it is when the wall of the hoof, well, flares out in one spot? Mudpie's back left hoof is funky and while it doesn't cause any problems, I've always wondered what it was....?

What exactly is flaring, and how does it affect a horse?

This guy's hooves do look a little odd...

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post #23 of 29 Old 02-09-2012, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, that was just mud from his QT paddock which was a mud pit. He was really happy to be out walking around for the first time and didn't want to stand still for me to clean off his feet very well that day, he wanted to explore!

The flaring was much worse, this is after his first trim. His feet were very overgrown, chipped and unbalanced. It will definitely take a few more trims before they are where we'd like them to be, but this is a huge improvement over where they were!
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post #24 of 29 Old 02-10-2012, 11:14 AM
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Overall he is a nice looking boy.

From the profile shot his LS placement looks a little behind the hip, and his loin is a bit longer because of this... But the rest of his body structure looks pretty strong. His back is not roached, he just needs a bit of weight, I believe the same is true of his "hunters bump"... A bit more weight (not much) and more work and he should have a lovely strong looking topline.

His hinds look a bit sickle hocked to me too, which could be why his feet tend to flare a bit. Regular trims should prevent it from being an issue. His left front cannon has some rotation, which may cause odd flaring on that hoof as well, or not depending on whether it affects his movement.

There isn't anything that is really bad about this horse, a fine toothed comb might dig up a few more faults,, but overall a nice looking guy.
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I noticed the hoof wall near the heels "flares out." This is usually because the horse is large and the hoof wall is not all that thick. It is common in Warmbloods and it is common in Cleveland Bays.

The thing is usually fixed by shoeing. The shoes lend support and the flares are gone. The issue that can be caused is seediness if the hoof wall separates a bit.

Someone mentioned navicular. NONE of the images of this horse would indicate navicular to me. He stands in all the photos with his front feet well under him.

A navicular horse, that is in pain will alternately point one front foot and then the other while standing around. If asked to stand up square, that horse will tend to shift weight off the front to the rear. I do not see that at all.

His feet are a bit blocky with deep heels and short toes. Not really clubbed footed at all. It is just they way his feet are.

He is a nice horse. Like I said.. a bit tied in behind the knee but with all his bone it is likely not an issue.

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Thanks! The vet did a thorough check on him when he arrived and said he wanted to see him again after a few trims when he comes back for Springtime vaccinations because his hooves were so bad. But he was moving sound even before he got the first trim in spite of how badly overgrown they were. He is a work in progress since he was a rescue but we we are working toward getting him to a good place with time and patience
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post #27 of 29 Old 02-11-2012, 10:32 AM
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Not so long ago a horse like him would have easily fetched $5k.

How times change.

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The flaring can happen if his diet has been less than ideal and overgrown too and may right itself with proper nutrition.

We saw this with a couple of light breed we brought in as rescues.

Good luck with him, he should be a lot of fun.
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I don't know how it was for him before he got to the auction and the feedlot but when he was there he was lucky to get much to eat at all judging by the amount of weight he lost in just a week. Now he has more in front of him than he can eat, he is a very slow eater! So the weight is going on slowly but that's not a bad thing, he is gaining.

At some point in his short life someone cared enough about him to get him inspected, branded and registered with the AWS. He has good manners and he has had some training. I took him to the indoor this morning, clipped on a longe line and he knew exactly what to do as soon as I walked a few steps and picked up a nice trot for a few rounds before coming in to me for approval. He seems to be the kind of horse that will do anything for you once he has that trust in you, and I am looking forward to seeing what we can do together!
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