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post #21 of 78 Old 08-23-2014, 12:34 PM
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This is a Training level cross country taken by someone wearing a headcam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-9WddyV3cA
This is one taken at what looks to maybe be an Entry Level clinic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjAjOU44qI
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post #22 of 78 Old 08-23-2014, 12:55 PM
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Pre entry and entry are the levels. The lowest division is pre entry. It is not rated, usually no set time allowed for cross country so you don't have time faults. It is an introduction to eventing. Entry is the next step up. Still not rated, it's when you start being introduced to what you would see on a rated course. The next step is pre training, then training level then prelim and it goes up from there.

Pre entry and entry are where most people start out.
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What country are you in? In the US, we have a bit of a different scale. I haven't evented but am looking into doing it with my QH. I also agree that your mare is long-backed and downhill, but I think she would be safe at the lower levels, which is what you'd be doing for a few years at the least unless you are one of those extraordinary people that move up really fast.

In the US, these are the levels:

Intro/Green as Grass/Pre-Beginner Novice/Starter - This is 2'3" I do believe and may not even have water. You do the Intro dressage test.

Beginner Novice - This is the first recognized event by the USEA if I am correct. Fences are 2'7" with 3' brush. You also get to experience water and a ditch on some courses.

Novice - Fences are 2' 11".

Training - Fences are 3'3".

Preliminary - I feel like this is the gateway to big time eventing. Fences are 3'7".

Intermediate - 3'9".

Advanced - 3'11".

And then you've got the FEI system, which is where you see the CCI*, CCI**, CCI***, and CCI****. The Kentucky Rolex is a four-star event.

In the least, I think you should give eventing a go. It will keep your mare entertained, you entertained, and both of you in great shape. If you decide you do not like it, all three phases that you've worked on will come to help you out in other disciplines, particularly the dressage, and that's even if you decide to keep going western.

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post #24 of 78 Old 08-23-2014, 05:58 PM
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If you want to see what the levels are like, go to youtube and look up RideonVideo. This is a camcorder site that records events in the California area at all levels. Or just type in beginner novice RideonVideo.

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There are quite a few unrecognized lower levels in eventing. It depends on the competition as to whether they include the smaller unrecognized levels or keep to the recognized levels only.

When I was a kid and started eventing, the lowest recognized level was training level, which started at 3'3". Pretraining was often offered (2'9") but it was unrecognized. It was soon seen that there was a huge number of people who only wanted to do pretraining, so they decided to recognize it and call it Novice and made it 2'11". Now, they recognize Beginner Novice, 2'7", too. They are discussing if they will recognize Elementary at an even lower height.

Some schooling shows (not recognized) will offer tiny jump divisions (18" crossrails) and the names can be anything. I've seen "Tadpole" divisions with such low fences.

Long story short, there is something for everyone. The sport is much more user friendly that it was in the 70's when Training was the lowest possible recognized level.
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When I first started out pre training was 2'9... nothing was recognized until Training which was 3'3. I remember it being a huge jump from pre training to training. People would often skip what was then called pre beginner and beginner and take their horse pre training a couple times then skip up to training level. Ahhhh the good ol days! Vests weren't even mandatory back when I first started I really don't know how we lived to tell the story back then.

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My horse actually is not long backed, it is the photo. If anything I would say she is short backed. Def not long. I am however in the US. How do I find out where the events are?

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In the US I believe they are posted with USEF and USEA so check the web pages. Also check with local eventing barns, your trainer etc...

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Here you go! Listed by zones! Click on the zone your state is in and it lists everything. USEA, United States Eventing Association, Inc. - US National Combined Training, Horse Trials: Dressage, Cross Country, Show Jumping | United States Eventing Association

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You can also find certified instructors on that webpage, places to school cross-country, and event information. I encourage you to at least try eventing. In my opinion, it's cheaper to show at a horse trial than it is at a rated hunter/jumper show, and at the lower levels, they are pretty good about accommodating starting riders. For example, you can use one saddle if you like for all three phases (an AP or jumping saddle), you aren't required to braid (though it is in good form to do so), and as long as you're wearing boots, a show shirt, a riding coat, and breeches in modest colors, and a certified helmet, you're good. The one thing you will have to invest in if you want to show probably is a safety vest for cross country and a medical armband.

Keep us updated with what you decide, okay?!
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