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        05-03-2012, 07:26 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Ok, so first things first. Im on my cell and can't see the video, and can't enlarge the picture, so working off a tiny picture! Will try again at home.

    But first, leg is too straight. He has decent pelvic length so he'll engage with work, but it will never be natural to him, and it'll be a constant battle. It isn't helped by the fact it looks like he doesn't have a strong loin to compensate. Don't like how his neck ties in to his shoulder either.

    Honestly, I would pass. This is a horse that, with a ton of work, will do the movements but never be competitive.
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        05-03-2012, 09:14 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Meh. Not terrible but he doesn't do anything for me. He looks heavy in the bridle but that could be a training thing. Even so, it's not much fun to fix (but I did it and got an awesome horse). His movement was all right but he had his hind legs less underneath him than my Shire cross at her most strung out moments and doesn't seem to have much freedom through the shoulder. Again, hard to know if it's the heavy handed rider blocking the movement or just his way of going.
         
        05-03-2012, 09:24 PM
      #13
    Showing
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    Meh. Not terrible but he doesn't do anything for me. He looks heavy in the bridle but that could be a training thing. Even so, it's not much fun to fix (but I did it and got an awesome horse). His movement was all right but he had his hind legs less underneath him than my Shire cross at her most strung out moments and doesn't seem to have much freedom through the shoulder. Again, hard to know if it's the heavy handed rider blocking the movement or just his way of going.
    Yeah that rider did NOT help him at all.. he seemed like he was struggling to go along, no happy step in his gaits that I saw. With the right person he'd do much better.
         
        05-03-2012, 10:47 PM
      #14
    Trained
    You can do better than that, I much prefer Duffy!

    AND, it's an orange Weltmeyer - run away!!!!!!
         
        05-03-2012, 11:52 PM
      #15
    Foal
    It did say Platz vor price! So if you did wanted him there is room for neg. The price.
    If its a"haendler " who is selling him,you would be able to neg. A lot(if you good) lol
    I like him,the rider I find terrible.
    Good luck!
         
        05-04-2012, 12:44 AM
      #16
    Foal
    He's posty in his hind end, and stands over at the knee. He's not deep enough in his flank, and is short in his back. He seems to be built downhill, which is an issue because it makes it hard for him to reach and engage his back, which is essential for dressage.

    He has a nice head with big eyes and small ears. He is extremely cute, and looks to have a very good foundation and to be a sweet boy. His movement looks like it'd be quite rough, but to be honest I don't know what to say about it. The fact that he was more than willing to make an attempt at performing for that rider says a bit about his good nature...

    I don't know...

    Running off of very little sleep, and I'm a nervous wreck about state finals on Saturday, so sorry if that didn't make any sense. Just judging horses here for practice(:

    Your choice!!
         
        05-04-2012, 01:58 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Echt Horsey ;) I only look above my price if its a dealer and VHB, you can knock lots off! Well I might have someone today, tomorrow, Sunday and next week. Keep those fingers crossed people!
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        05-04-2012, 02:09 AM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Sorry guys, didnt see all the other posts! Just woken up! I will see what happens with Duffy first, the rider on him is IMO working his front end by lforcing his head down and nagging where as she's letting his butt trail. Horsey, its a zuchter, not haendler, I'm not sure if they also knock the price down much? Kayty a Ginger weltmeyer is better that a Ginger donnerhall haha!!!
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        05-04-2012, 02:09 AM
      #19
    Trained
    Really?? Lol. I think he does look over at the knee in the pic, however I don't see it in the video so it might just be a light/postural thing. He is far from posty behind and has nice short cannons all around. Angles in the hind look decent to me.

    I really like the look of him in the videos too. He has a correct trot, is nice and supple in the topline and obedient to the seat and contact, although the girl doesn't always know where he spur is. He gives me the impression of a horse that has been correctly and consistently been ridden up to the contact and is very willingly going around as I would expect from a first level horse. He looks to me like he is very ready for shoulder in, half pass and starting flying changes.
    The canter looks good, flat and a little short behind but I would want to ride him and see him in an area where cantering in a straight line is a possibility before chalking that up to anything more than a naturally large canter in a small area. I would have also liked to see his walk completely free, but it looks mostly unobstructed.

    This one is one of the first I've seen who is worth the fuel money to go out and have a look at and a ride of.
    Good luck!
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        05-04-2012, 02:19 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    That also means I'm getting better at looking through videos haha!! Thanks anebel. He's only a baby still, so plenty of life left in him! With something like that I would be able to start some comps this year. Think someone is coming today to look at Duffy too. Fingers crossed. I will video the ride in any case. Or any ride to be honest. Um just worried the price is low cause he's a nutter or Ill!!!! We will see!
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