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    04-03-2012, 06:10 AM
  #1
Weanling
Question Filly looks a bit odd..

Posting this for a friend it is a possible buy I think her legs look a bit odd she is about 1 1/2 not sure of her breed any guesses on that would be great as well
     
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    04-03-2012, 06:25 AM
  #2
Trained
Wow... nothing strenuous for this one, those are some seriously over-sloped pasterns! They aren't going to straighten up, not without surgery and splinting and that runs the risk of ruining the horse for any riding. Hinds are posty and light on bone. She is also very downhill (could grow out of it) and her neck ties in to her chest way too low. She may also be cow hocked. And, the shallowest reason of them all, that is a seriously pathetic tail for a horse that's supposed to be around 18 months old! My girl is 3 months younger, has had her tail trimmed a few times for showing, and STILL has a better tail!

Not a horse I would buy. She might make a nice pleasure/trails horse for a weekend happy hacker, but for anything more, I wouldn't touch her with a barge pole. Those pasterns scare me.
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    04-03-2012, 06:34 AM
  #3
Weanling
Thanks I told my friend I didnt like the looks of her legs but meh you can't really buy quality for $150
     
    04-03-2012, 06:40 AM
  #4
Trained
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Originally Posted by donovan    
thanks I told my friend I didnt like the looks of her legs but meh you can't really buy quality for $150
No, but, just like "free" horses don't end up being "free"-the sam e can be said for cheap ones. Unless your friend is going to want something for a companion, with very light riding in what will probably be sooner rather than later, OR if they have a burning desire to pay the vets mortgage, I would pass.
     
    04-03-2012, 06:46 AM
  #5
Trained
Wow, where I live the dogger pays more than that! Seriously, those legs terrify me, she's not a horse that's likely to be sound for a long time even in only very light work. She won't be a weight carrier (don't know what your friend wants but it is a consideration to be thought of).

Those sloped pasterns combined with her lovely shoulder will make a very smooth, comfortable ride, but smoothness should not be considered over soundness, EVER, and this one won't be a sound using horse, not for very long.

If your friend is only willing to spend $150 on the purchase of a young horse, a) are they REALLY experienced enough for a baby (or is it just, omg cheap horsey, I want her), and b) can they REALLY afford a(nother?) horse? $150 per horse is the base price my vet-dentist charges, not including travel and consult fee, and my two need their teeth done every 6 months... my filly because she's a baby, my gelding because he gets sharp points to his teeth really quickly. That's $300/year without even considering travel and consult which will add another $100/trip, PLUS feed, PLUS farrier (I do their farrier work but just imagine if I paid, that's $50/horse/month), PLUS drenching them for sand and worms... my yearly bill for keeping my horses is more than they are worth if I sold them and they aren't cheap horses like this one! If your friend won't spend more than $150 on a young horse, what else won't they spend much money on?

I had someone looking at a mare we had for sale a while back, and we didn't sell to them because "hubby will throw a fit if I spend more than $200"... we didn't think hubby would be willing to fork out $1000+ in vet bills for a MINOR injury (that is vet costs in my area, we had a very minor injury cost in excess of $300 for consult, antibiotics, and a skin flap cut off... if it needs stitches, and you live where I do, it's a miracle if it's less than $1000, and that's when you do the post-emergency care yourself).

IMO if you're not willing, or can't afford, to spend more than a small amount of money on buying a horse, maybe you shouldn't buy one. Not what your friend wants to hear I'm sure, but the harsh reality. Proper care of a horse costs a lot of money.
     
    04-03-2012, 07:02 AM
  #6
Weanling
No they have a huge farm and plenty of money they had a look at this girl and the bloke said she is $150
     
    04-03-2012, 07:07 AM
  #7
Trained
So if they have so much money why are they even considering this horse? She is of poor to mediocre quality at best. There is a VERY good reason she's so cheap. Those terrible, terrible pasterns - which will likely only get worse as she gets older!

There are some very very nice horses out there for not all that much - my filly was only $1000, because she's grade, but she has a lot of potential.

Tell your friend to keep looking, and up the price range some... they won't get average quality for any less than $1000 unless they are extremely lucky, let alone anything that's going to be any good as a performance horse. In my mind there are only 6 "quality" levels for horses - poor, mediocre, average, good, great, and exceptional. You can break it down and say that different things make different horses good or great, and a horse can be poor for jumpers but exceptional for reining (for example)... HOWEVER, when it's something like a severe incorrectness in the legs that will cause unsoundness in not very long, the horse can't be any better than mediocre for any discipline at all. That, of course, is what her pasterns are - a severe potential unsoundness. I think whoever takes this filly on will break her, and find that within the year she has gone lame.

Your friend would be much better off buying something that's already broke, or is old enough to be broke straight away, than buying an 18 month old cheap, having to wait a couple of years to break it, and forking out a few thousand dollars keeping it until it can be broke. Why not spend that few thousand dollars on getting a better (and older, either already going or ready to start) horse in the first place?
     
    04-03-2012, 07:12 AM
  #8
Weanling
My mare cost $600 she is in the thread below this one
     
    04-03-2012, 07:24 AM
  #9
Trained
Which one? They are both average conformationally, from what I see (although the photos are no good for critique, really, I can see a few faults that put them as average). And yes, my gelding is "average" conformationally speaking, so I'm not saying they're crap horses or anything like that... just that they are far from perfect. And, I bet they don't have much education, placing them even more firmly in the "average" level... one is a standardbred, no matter how great a standie might be the fact is they just don't fetch as much as other breeds, and the TB, much the same, there are so many average quality TBs that they don't fetch much until they're educated and proven as performance horses.

My gelding was $2000, and I was paying for his education more than anything else - conformationally he is VERY average. My filly $1000, average to good quality, smaller than I really wanted, and a weanling at the time (10 months ago now), when I wanted a yearling to 2yo. I say buy a horse that's 3 or older because it's driving me mad waiting to break her! And costing me a LOT more keeping her than it would cost me to buy a started 4yo.
     
    04-03-2012, 07:28 AM
  #10
Weanling
The TB cost $600 BUT she was priced at $1200 she was only half price as we know the last owner quite well
     

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