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    04-29-2013, 01:01 AM
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Four-year-old draft cross critique

Ok. I haven't asked for a critique on Aires in a long while and now that he's starting to come into himself, I'd see what everyone thinks of him.

A few things to note:

1) I know he needs his feet done. They aren't as bad as the pics make them look. It's just a matter of being able to arrange times with the farrier (we've been playing phone tag and there's only one farrier that Aires likes/will tolerate, so that's the one we use).

2) He had just had his second bath ever and had stood for having his ridiculously thick and knotted mane roached with scissors. He was being an a$$ the entire time my boyfriend was trying to take these pics.

3) The pics were taken by my VERY non-horsey boyfriend. He tried his best.

Ok, here goes nothing.

(I know it doesn't show his legs)






(I know this one is at a slight angle)


Just because it's kinda cute (excuse my fatness)

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    04-29-2013, 01:07 AM
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Wow he's really looking good!!
Question, do you think he could put a few more pounds on him? He looks like he could use it to me. That's the only thing that points out to me besides him being so handsome!
     
    04-29-2013, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Klassic Superstar    
Wow he's really looking good!!
Question, do you think he could put a few more pounds on him? He looks like he could use it to me. That's the only thing that points out to me besides him being so handsome!
He actually is in good flesh, he's just in a growth spurt. He gets fed three times a day (grass hay for breakfast and lunch and alfalfa for supper...not sure exactly how much, as he's boarded).

Another one just for grins and giggles. Pre-bath and roach. He's doing his best friesian impression. Lol

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    04-29-2013, 10:40 AM
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Maybe I've missed it somewhere, but what cross exactly is he?

He is a nice 50/50 colouring. His bone seems to fit his body. However, his head appears much too large for his body. I see this in many Friesian crosses. His neck also seems rather short and thin. His body and depth, just doesn't seem to fit his large rear. In fact, he appears as two different horses. Much more horse in the back half, than the front. Put your hand over each half of the pic, and you'll see what I mean.
He has an incredibly long, sloping croup, which I don't like at all. Even allowing for his slightly long feet, his pasterns seem long and a bit weak. In some pics he stands ok, but in one he appears weak and over at the knee. He toes out, but that's not a huge problem really.
I would think this boy has a lot more maturing to do. Knowing his background and exactly how old he is, would help. Was he just four or coming five now?

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    04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
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He is a Percheron/paint cross (fugly, weak APHA sire and fairly decent Percheron dam). He will be four on May 7th.

His head has always been disproportionately large. He's also not in work, so his neck is undermuscled.
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    04-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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Well he is very young and still has a few more years to mature, according to how tall he is destined to become. With work and maturity, I think he will improve and his body will catch up to his head a bit. No doubt his neck will also improve.

I tend to think by now, he shouldn't be picky about his farrier. According to how long you have had him, his ground work should be well underway. You should also know exactly how much food he is actually getting, boarded or not. Difficult I know, if he is boarded in a herd situation.

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    04-29-2013, 02:11 PM
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Well he is very young and still has a few more years to mature, according to how tall he is destined to become. With work and maturity, I think he will improve and his body will catch up to his head a bit. No doubt his neck will also improve.

I tend to think by now, he shouldn't be picky about his farrier. According to how long you have had him, his ground work should be well underway. You should also know exactly how much food he is actually getting, boarded or not. Difficult I know, if he is boarded in a herd situation.

Lizzie
His ground work is done, but he's decided that he's forgotten every ounce of manners he has ever had. As for farriers...he doesn't trust men and there's only one female farrier in my area and he hates her (used her once and it was just all bad). So, we use the one male farrier he actually will tolerate (we've used a stud chain and we've even Aced him, but I prefer to use the farrier he likes so I don't have to do any of that). I can go in his stall with no halter or lead rope, pick up all four feet and mess with them with no problems at all. Someone else tries it and they're liable to get kicked.

As for his feed, sometimes he gets fed in turnout with the other geldings, sometimes in his stall. In turnout, he's the lead gelding, so no kne runs him off his feed (hes also the tallest by about a hand). He's actually about a 4.5 on the body scale. No ribs showing, his hips/butt aren't nearly as sunken/prominent as they look in those pics. He has shot up 2" in the last couple of months, though, so his body is playing catch-up. I'm considering adding alfalfa mix pellets and Strategy to his evening feed, though.
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    04-29-2013, 02:18 PM
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He really doesn' look 4, I would turn him away for a year to mature. (or continue with ground work)
     
    04-29-2013, 02:20 PM
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He really doesn' look 4, I would turn him away for a year to mature.
Turn him away? He's not getting another year off.
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    04-29-2013, 02:46 PM
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He doesn't look too immature to me, just somewhere along the line mother nature lost balance...all mass went into front and back, and the middle didn't get its share. But he will grow into that head and butt
If he's on hay only, I'd give him a vit/ min supplement or a ration balancer, with a handful of alfalfa pellets, soaked, instead of the strategy.
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