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post #1 of 27 Old 10-21-2012, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Question Friesian cross , please critique

This is a lovely bred Paint-Friesian mare. She is 9, supposedly super comfy to ride, that I am contemplating buying. I need a heavier horse as I'm a big girl myself. Her sire is Vanyel, one of my absolute favorite Friesians. All I'm looking for is a decent trail horse, and she is listed as a 2 out 10 for temperment, sweet and friendly.

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post #2 of 27 Old 10-21-2012, 02:33 PM
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She stands a little bit under herself in front, but I've noticed that a lot of friesians do, so it probably isn't a huge deal.

She's got a beautiful angle on her shoulder and she's built like a typical friesian...just a different color.

I really think she's lovely.

One concern about trail riding on a horse with so much hair...I would keep her tail braided and bagged, and her feathers trimmed. My boy is a draft cross with only slight feathering (more than a normal horse, but less than a full draft) and I keep his front legs wrapped and his back legs trimmed to keep down on debris getting caught in his feathers. Also, his hair tends to be coarser than a normal horses, so everything gets caught and tangled in it. I'm guessing a friesian (being a light draft horse) would be the same.

Also, I'd put her on a diet. I could be seeing things, but she looks a bit more on the tubby side than she should be.

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post #3 of 27 Old 10-23-2012, 12:49 AM Thread Starter
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ya, I agree she looks a bit tubby. I really want her . Currently I am attempting to come up with the money for her, and shipping is almost as bad... around 1ooo to ship her from Southern Minnesota to west Texas. Ouch.
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post #4 of 27 Old 10-23-2012, 12:53 AM
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She is absolutely stunning...I wish I could have o.o

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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She is a beautiful girl, that's for sure. I'll bet she's just a joy to see running in from the pasture!

Judging only by her conformation, though, I'd say that if you are a heavier rider then this mare probably isn't the best horse for you. One of the most important things for a horse intended to carry lots of weight to have is a short, strong back, but hers is long. Also, she has another conformation issue that I see in Paints a lot. The gaskin is too short and the cannon too long, placing the hock joint too high on the hind legs. I have a Paint with this conformation fault and she has trouble driving with her hocks. Sometimes she'll kind of slip in the back for a moment when she was supposed to be pushing forward and I can feel what went wrong. It's the placement of her hocks. So I think that would be another reason that she isn't the right horse for you if you're looking for one to carry a heavier rider.

Sorry to be sounding so harsh! I'm just getting a bit tired. :p

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post #6 of 27 Old 10-23-2012, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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Its all good. I agree about her cannons especially. If I thought I was going to be seeing heavy trail use or doing lots and lots of riding, I would likely consider another horse, just for the horse's sake. I mostly need a horse to help me get back into shape, (so I won't be heavy anymore, cross fingers) and that is a calm, loveable sweetheart. Even my friends horses that I ride now, have no issue with me, as I am a "good balance" rider.. according to her anyway. Heh. Comes from growing up on horseback, being the wild cowboy kid that did anything and everything on horseback.

Now at just over 40, I find myself sitting around on this thing too much, with my own disabilities, and general malaise. I sold my last horse, a gorgeous (to me) black Arab mare over 10 years ago, and have just been bumming rides from friends or family when I can. Finally I have a place I put a horse reliably again, and I want one so badly it hurts my teeth. Been looking off and on over the last couple years, and this girl fits my needs currently to a "T". Mostly pasture riding, a little around town hopefully in a few months, more trails as I get better shape-wise. And most important, perhaps, that factor in the back of my head that lifts my depression simply by being with my own horse. Having friends with them is awesome, but having my own is paramount to me. Always has been, likely always will be.

Sorry for rambling, its late, even in Texas :)
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I am glad that you are getting back into riding, and if she fits your needs, then nothing anyone says here will matter much. I confess I am not a big Fresian fan. There are two half fresians at our barn; one X appy and one X andalusian.
Both are very heavy horses that struggle with becoming overweight too easily. So, they are perpetually on "diets". Both are rather dull, I mean not sensitive horses and can take a lot to make them go. One is less so than the other. Both can be very slow to react, but can also get super hard focusses on something that scares them and it's really hard to make them let go of that thought. Both don't have much in teh way of a "work ethic", however that might be due to lack of riding/training. The Appy X is so dull that if you want to move her over, out in the pasture, you have to get super big to get her to decide to move her feet away from you. She just doesn't care.

Also, these horses can be very hard to fit a saddle to. Her shoulder is pretty , but it's upright. Her stride might be a bit "jackhammery".

NONE of that matters . It is just my limited experience. I could only say, you should ride her a few times. Don't fall to the lure of "pretty".
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oh, I know that one. Can't ride her before hand though, as she's over 18hrs away. I do have a video of her, if anyone would care to look at it.

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Tell me what you think? Seller says is like riding a couch. Heh, rode rocking chairs before, but a couch? Might be due to her weight, partially.
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Ok, I am glad you showed me that.

First, looks like horse has some "go".

2nd. Looks like you will be doing a ton of training on her, since she apparently has little

3rd, she has very wideset front legs which can mean a very jackhammery ride at the trot, and more "roll" in the gait in front as she goes back and forth from one leg to the other.
She already has a bit of crest on her neck and butt pillows, so she needs to lose weight now.

The video did not show her at trot or canter, and as a buyer who is contemplating driving 18 hrs to see her, I would want more video to see.
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post #10 of 27 Old 10-23-2012, 02:22 AM Thread Starter
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/agree

I don't mind the training part, I'm good for that. If anything more reason to go to the barn daily :) I think I will ask for more video, trot and canter, and see if they can oblige. I really wish she was closer tho...even within a couple of states, lol. Good idea, thanks for that tinyliny!
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