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post #11 of 28 Old 05-05-2013, 05:43 PM
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He looks to be back at the knee. hard to say in this photo. But.. consider this, a horse that would rate 100% conformationally correct, would not be useable.
And for those who immediately wish to disagree, then explain why Halter horses, whom are soo pretty to look at, are not used for hard competions.
He looks to be a cute nice horse. Some groceries and muscles and he could be really nice. Also, i do have to comment, whats with the tiny buckets on the fence, I do hope you have a larger water trough !
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post #12 of 28 Old 05-05-2013, 07:13 PM
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He looks to be back at the knee. hard to say in this photo.

Definitely not back at the knee, he's actually very slightly over at the knee.

But.. consider this, a horse that would rate 100% conformationally correct, would not be useable.

Not sure where you're getting that idea. The whole idea behind "correct conformation" is to create a horse that's going to stay sound and healthy.

And for those who immediately wish to disagree, then explain why Halter horses, whom are soo pretty to look at, are not used for hard competions.
Halter horses are about a billion light years away from having correct conformation. They have been bred for decades for nothing but muscle mass and tiny heads...at the expense of their bone mass, their feet, their hock/pastern angles, their shoulder angles, and their usability.

If you ask any real horseman that doesn't make their money from breeding/selling halter bred horses, they'll tell you the same.
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smrobs, I'm curious, could you possibly show me how he's slightly over at the knee and not back? I thought he was back at the knee too, and would like to know where my error was. I'm not questioning you or anything, I'd just really like to know what I was seeing wrong so that I can be more accurate in the future.
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No, it's all good .

The more I think about it though, the more I think it may just be a difference in terminology/understanding.

This is what I consider "back at the knee", AKA "calf kneed". The front of the leg has a convex profile where the knee is behind the line from fetlock to the center of the elbow joint.



And this is what I call "over at the knee" or "buck kneed", which is what I see to a slight degree in the OP's horse. That's where the knee is in front of the elbow/fetlock line

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I see! I always thought that "back at the knee" was when that part behind the knee stuck out more than normal, if that makes sense... I googled it though and it was a stupid mistake on my part . I don't know where I got that LOL. Sorry OP!
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No, it's all good .

The more I think about it though, the more I think it may just be a difference in terminology/understanding.

This is what I consider "back at the knee", AKA "calf kneed". The front of the leg has a convex profile where the knee is behind the line from fetlock to the center of the elbow joint.



And this is what I call "over at the knee" or "buck kneed", which is what I see to a slight degree in the OP's horse. That's where the knee is in front of the elbow/fetlock line
In person he looks way more like horse 1. Let me get a better picture. Hold on.
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the photos show the back at knee ... the OP horse is slightly back at the knee.
The halter hosrses are sposed to be the cream of the crop the ideal horse, the horses for cutting are bred tiny legged and butt high.. also tiny footed .
a lot of them are barely 14 hands , or at least the ones in this area, and are the HOT ticket. Breeders breed for what sales for what is popular and latest fad, or they would not be in business,
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I agree with smrobs, over at the knee.

I also disagree that halter horses are bred to be perfect. They are bred to fit current fashion, i.e. huge bodies with a large amount of muscle mass and tiny babydoll heads with fine legs and itty bitty feet. Fat and dainty, hmmm? rofl
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Maybe a diff photo. I still dont see Over.
horses today, are bred for what the people find appealling or in style and if the breeders dont go with what is popular then they would be oob
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This horse has correct knees.. Perhaps slightly over. Nothing wrong with this horse's knees. I would not call him tied at the knee either. The knee joint has a Boney process that is more prominent in some horses than others. This horse is prominent. Tied at the knee shows a noticeable narrowing from fetlock to knee. That is not going on here.

I would like to see better photos of this horse. He looks to be a bit light in bone and to stand over a lot of ground. Lovely low hocks and knees and an adequate shoulder. Neck appears to tie in nicely at the top and he has nice withers. Looks a good one... But show us more please.

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