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    04-23-2012, 06:23 AM
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Foal
Red face Is he Hunter Type?

Can anyone tell me whether my big boy is hunter or hack type? I'm leaning towards hunter. He is a 6yo TB, 16.2. He is quite light on at the moment (only had him 6 weeks) but he is slowly gaining, and since hunter ISN'T about being fat, I figure you should be able to tell anyway.

He has a cannon circumference of 8.5 inches.








     
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    04-23-2012, 10:32 AM
  #2
Banned
He is a little thin to work very hard......at anything.

Just a little.
     
    04-23-2012, 01:26 PM
  #3
Weanling
You really can't determine if a horse is a "hunter" type unless you have jumped them.

Any horse can be a hunter, the question is if the horse can actually succeed in the hunters. If your horse has sloppy knees, can't find a distance to save it's life, a constant changing of pace, can't get lead changes, and doesn't carry themselves in a nice hunter frame...chances are you are better off persuing jumpers. Hunters is very particular and only a select few horses that have not only the movement and jump but also the PASSION for perfection will succeed.
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    04-24-2012, 06:41 AM
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Foal
Ripper, I did clarify I have only had him 6 weeks.. Please, if you have nothing constructive to say, don't bother posting :)

Thanks Blush. Over in Australia we have Hunter workouts just like Hack workouts? They are on the flat, including w/t/c and an in-hand gallop. They go off bone, movement, and conformation. Do you have such classes over there? That's the sort of hunter I was talking about :)
     
    04-24-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by myyky    
Ripper, I did clarify I have only had him 6 weeks.. Please, if you have nothing constructive to say, don't bother posting :)

Thanks Blush. Over in Australia we have Hunter workouts just like Hack workouts? They are on the flat, including w/t/c and an in-hand gallop. They go off bone, movement, and conformation. Do you have such classes over there? That's the sort of hunter I was talking about :)
Then do not ask.

Perhaps "critique" is not what you are looking for???
     
    05-06-2012, 02:10 PM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ripper    
Then do not ask.

Perhaps "critique" is not what you are looking for???
Ripper, please don't think I'm trying to start fights, but she did specify that she only had him for 6 weeks, and that she knew he was thin. She didn't ask critique on his chub, she asked for his type. Please don't be rude :)
     
    05-06-2012, 02:12 PM
  #7
Foal
Can you give a brief description of the difference in hunter and hacks in your country? I have read about it before but don't recall.

We don't have this particular designation in the states so it will be hard to judge without a little more info. Maybe a vid showing a good hack vs a good hunter where you are? I'd be very interested in the knowledge!!
     
    05-06-2012, 02:34 PM
  #8
Weanling
I don't know what makes a good hunter conformationally, so I can't really comment on that...
I mostly wanted to say that your horse is probably the most gorgeous shade of bay I've ever seen. He's almost a plum color... absolutely stunning!
     
    05-06-2012, 02:49 PM
  #9
Weanling
I'm assuming it's the same as in the UK from your description? So Hack or Lightweight Hunter Under Saddle classes?

Hacks are generally smaller, lighter, more thoroughbred-y types with very showy movement. Manners are vital in a hack class, on top of the movement, but the ideal hack will be smaller than 16hh and very light. Used to be shown sidesaddle, they are considered a lady's ride.

Typical hack type:


Hunters, even lightweight hunters, have more bone, and tend not to be TB - they are designed to carry up to 12 stone in a lightweight class, and whilst you wouldn't jump them in a flat ridden class, they should be built to carry you for a days hunting and jumping.

Lightweight hunter:


I love hunter shows, and took my old horse, who was a middleweight hunter (ID x Welsh) to a lot of hunter shows. My latest horse, though, is a 16.2hh TB, who doesn't really fit into any of these classes - he's too tall and not quite fine enough for a hack (to place well, anyway) and far too light and not enough bone for a hunter. However, he gives the judge a very good ride, so he occasionally places based on that.

Not going to lie, here, a 16.2hh TB with any amount of bone is unlikely to do well in either class unless they are in pristine condition and ride like a dream with stunning paces. I don't know your boy that well, and obviously with weight and training he could potentially get there, but I personally wouldn't set your heart on those types of classes... Trust me, I know how disappointing it is! However, if he can jump, you could always look at working hunter classes. That's what we do instead - a greater percentage of the marks is on the jumping portion, and we pick up the points there that he loses for not having the hunter build.

However, always worth entering either or both at a few local shows and see what the competition is like - could be different where you are, and possibly not as strict at local level. Plus great fun and a low-stress way to introduce your horse to buzzy competition environments without asking more than w/t/c/g...

And just out of interest, a heavyweight hunter, because they are awesome:


This shows what a judge is looking for in a less exaggerated scale in the lighter weight classes... this sort of build.
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    05-06-2012, 07:31 PM
  #10
Foal
Wow, thanks for the post minstrel! Our version of hunters are night and day. So in the states a hunter is more like your hack...and your hunters are fully warmbloods and draftier breeds,yes? If this is also the case in australia, then this horse is a hack sort for sure. In the us, perhaps a hunter but again, in the us its more on movement rather than build
     

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