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post #1 of 18 Old 09-16-2012, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
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Arrow How does her jumping form look?

She has only recently begun jumping. The barrels were a little over two feet high. In two of the pics her knees are hanging a bit, while the first pic shows her knees snapped up. I think she was just being lazy with her legs the other two pics. Her hind legs snap up to almost her belly, but I don't have a picture of that. I can get one if it would help. It seems like she has a good amount of bascule, but I'm not an expert on what is and isn't considered bascule. Feel free to critique anything you see!

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From the looks of these pictures...
a.) Is she doing pretty well jumping? If not, how could she improve? Exercises?
b.) What jumping discipline would she best be competing in? Hunters? XC? SJ?

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post #2 of 18 Old 09-17-2012, 11:06 AM
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I think she has potential.

2' is NOTHING, and many horses (mine included) will be lazy about such a low height. That being said, lots and lots of grids will help get her forelegs snappier, and if she's scopey, they don't have to be perfect (this coming from a jumpers perspective) - some horses with untidy front legs will just jump higher so they don't knock poles. Plus, she's just started jumping, so once she figures out where to put her feet, her form will improve.

She does appear to be taking off with her hind legs even, which is a VERY important thing, because it indicates she is balanced.

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I think she has potential.

2' is NOTHING, and many horses (mine included) will be lazy about such a low height. That being said, lots and lots of grids will help get her forelegs snappier, and if she's scopey, they don't have to be perfect (this coming from a jumpers perspective) - some horses with untidy front legs will just jump higher so they don't knock poles. Plus, she's just started jumping, so once she figures out where to put her feet, her form will improve.

She does appear to be taking off with her hind legs even, which is a VERY important thing, because it indicates she is balanced.
I'm glad you think she has potential! I've been doing lots of grids with her, almost ever since we started jumping. I'm hoping that the grids made her more balanced. Her hind legs used to be lazy too. She was tuck her front legs and just "walk" over the jump with her back legs. xD She had the most awky jump then.

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I really like her jump, I think once she's had some more time to figure it all out she'll be awesome.

As a point of comparison, my boy (who likes to take off from MILES away) is quite scopey and has jumped 4' competitively - he is 15.1 so that's pretty huge for him! These fences are everywhere from 18 inches to 3'6" and please excuse my position, I never look good in photos. The smallest, 18 inches, was at an eventing show - I'm a wimp XC so we entered the smallest grade - and jacketless because it was like 100*F. I've attached an XC photo from the same event as proof he actually CAN jump small jumps with nice form.

edit; and the photos where I'm jumping in my dressage saddle are REALLY old, I'd only had him for like 2 weeks and that's nearly 2 years ago now.



The 3'6" (excuse the tiny, the friend who was photographing didn't know my phone's camera has zoom)
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I really like her jump, I think once she's had some more time to figure it all out she'll be awesome.

As a point of comparison, my boy (who likes to take off from MILES away) is quite scopey and has jumped 4' competitively - he is 15.1 so that's pretty huge for him! These fences are everywhere from 18 inches to 3'6" and please excuse my position, I never look good in photos. The smallest, 18 inches, was at an eventing show - I'm a wimp XC so we entered the smallest grade - and jacketless because it was like 100*F. I've attached an XC photo from the same event as proof he actually CAN jump small jumps with nice form.

edit; and the photos where I'm jumping in my dressage saddle are REALLY old, I'd only had him for like 2 weeks and that's nearly 2 years ago now.



The 3'6" (excuse the tiny, the friend who was photographing didn't know my phone's camera has zoom)
Wow! He sure does take off far away, but he still looks so good doing it! He's a very gorgeous horse with awesome jumping ability. You guys look great together. I love how scopey he is.

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hahaha yes only way to get him remotely close to the base of a fence is to half-halt every other stride and squeeze with my legs when I'm not half-halting. Some of his Hail Mary efforts have shocked my coach, he's taken off a whole stride early before now! He's amazing, very rarely takes rails.

My old coach used to say this tendency to take off from so far away is really common in the scopey event horses, especially those with long backs like Monty... he flies! Your girl will really fly too with time and training.
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My old coach used to say this tendency to take off from so far away is really common in the scopey event horses, especially those with long backs like Monty... he flies! Your girl will really fly too with time and training.
My event horse often turns 2 strides into 1 strides or 1 stride into a bounce :), but we never have knocked a rail in a show before so....

I can't get my horse to have nice form untill we are jumping at least 2'6. He gets lazy and sloppy and bored and then he starts to take down rails. It's hard to tell you what dicipline would be best because for eventing, you also have to do dressage. For jumpers you have to go fast and make tight turns, and I'm not really sure what the point of HJ is XD.

I'd say as long as your horse can do dressage, eventing is so fun! Cross country is the best. Your horse is very cute and is jumping the barrels with oom to spare. Good Luck and have fun :)

EDIT: Oxers help a lot with bascule. Make the back bar 2-3 holes higher than the frot bar and it makes for a better jump. If you can work these oxers in with a line of several bounces, then you have a good exersize :)
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My event horse often turns 2 strides into 1 strides or 1 stride into a bounce :), but we never have knocked a rail in a show before so....

I can't get my horse to have nice form untill we are jumping at least 2'6. He gets lazy and sloppy and bored and then he starts to take down rails.
Mine is exactly the same! I have a 1 stride set up at the moment because he's been getting sloppy and also because it's the best way to get me to commit to a jump that scares me (say a large oxer), and I can't say he ever bounces it, but he does really like his crazy long spots.

For Monty, it's not 2'6"... more like 2', but he certainly doesn't really respect the small stuff. He never knocks rails, but he gets really strong because he's bored and it's more fun to gallop... at least I think that's why :P he jumps nicer the bigger they get.
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I find my horse to be such a goof. She's not superman-ing it over the jumps as bad as your guys' two seem to, but she jumped four foot from a WALK. /headdesk

I was like... "don't jump it... don't.... no.... DON'T JUMP IT!"
and she was all like... "lalala.... what? oh yeah, JUMP!"

But that's why we must all love our adorable, goofy jumpers. They find ways to make us laugh. c;

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hahahaha the 3'6" photo with my lad, I trotted into that :P we were having issues with control before fences so I trotted him into it and then let him canter one stride out. Crazy athletic horse he is. Also had a pony, all of 12.1, that could jump 3' from a standstill.

Jumpers are such characters :P personality is a must in a jumping horse, they can't be bland and robotic.

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