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    10-08-2012, 11:53 AM
  #1
Yearling
Hunter prospect

What do you think of this gelding? He's over 7 hours away so I really would opinions before I even consider contacting the seller.

He is a 2007 15.3 gelding
"5 year old Judgment X Orame. Going to be a great small junior and/or derby horse. Just competed in the $500,000 hunter prix finals in Saugerties. Very brave and jumps in perfect form everytime. Easy enough for a child or adult. Auto lead changes. Currently showing in the 3'3 Performance Hunters, Pre-Green Hunters and the 3'3 Devocoux Hunter Prix's"






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    10-08-2012, 03:24 PM
  #2
Foal
If he's already showing A Circuit hunters then I don't see why you need our opinion. Now its up to you, its what you like in a horse.
     
    10-08-2012, 03:54 PM
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Yearling
If your planning to spend $75-$100k on a horse.....I imagine you have a trainer and vet more then willing to give you their opinion on him?
     
    10-08-2012, 07:14 PM
  #4
Yearling
I probably shouldn't have put "prospect" in the title since the horse is actively showing, but the show records are variable so I wanted to see if anyone noticed anything in the video. I know people posting ads tend to put their horses best trips and although I didn't notice anything, people on here have a much sharper eye than I do. And just because a horse is actively showing on the A circuit doesn't mean it doesn't have issues or winning consistently.

The reason I'm asking here and not my trainer is because of the over 7 hour trip. I don't want to go down there just to find something I overlooked in the video especially since I'm in school and I would have to pay for my trainer to go out and look at the horse, which is a lot of time and money to put down just to go see a horse.
     
    10-26-2012, 01:27 PM
  #5
Foal
He has a great jump not hanging
He has a long and flat back and bum
     
    10-26-2012, 02:16 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Looks nice in the videos. Fairly scopey but also pretty in the air with even knees and so forth. Back is flatish over the fence which may make the horse easier to ride to (again) present a pretty picture.

BTW it is cheaper to spend the money for your trainer to go and look and find the horse is not what you want than to get a horse that is unsuitable.

Just sayin'
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    10-26-2012, 05:05 PM
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Weanling
He has his daddy's head, doesn't he, and looks like he inherited the great temperament also. I think he's bloody wonderful, but at that level, I'd be talking to your trainer.
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    10-28-2012, 06:03 PM
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Weanling
He's gorgeous!
     
    10-28-2012, 09:15 PM
  #9
Foal
Assuming you will have your trainer watch the videos... Have them look real hard at the trot @beginning of first videos for signs of stiffness on the left front. (I tend to see thing that might not be there.). But he also lands on the left lead all the time, with that leg out in front even when heading the other way. Nice horse. Just have them watch too before going that far.
     
    10-28-2012, 09:49 PM
  #10
Showing
Supermane, at that level it's really going to be up to your team whether or not he will take you where you want to go.
In video 1, he bobbled a bit at 1:15 in that combination, looked like he was trying to duck out to the right (really looked and bulged that shoulder out) but his rider kept him on course. He's honest in that he didn't refuse, but a more timid rider may have had a run out at that fence. At 1:54 he tried to break into the trot. He dives a little bit with his front end when he gets a bit of a long distance; this could be his age showing through.
He looks like quite the nice up and comer; really it's going to be up to you and your trainer what you need and want. I think his wobbliness (for lack of a better word) is due to his relative inexperience.
My only other beef is that he changes late behind. Agh!!

I do wonder, though, why they ended up gelding him? It looks like they had him on track to be a breeding stallion and only gelded him recently. What changed their minds that he wasn't worth keeping a stud? Does he still act like a stud? Did he cover any mares? Can he be turned out with other horses, or be around them safely?
     

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