I am thinking of buying this mare for my husband to tag along on short trails with me and for my young daughter to learn some basics on. I have been looking for a "bombproof" "been there done that" horse since my husband has very limited riding experience and my daughter is a complete beginner. The temperment of this mare sounds perfect. She is very confident and nothing phases her. She neck reins and knows her leads. No vices. She loads, bathes, ties, And stands for the farrier. She is about 15 years old and 15.2hh. The price is right ($800 OBO) because the "horse economy" is in the toilet in my area right now. My biggest worry is that she looks to have a roached back. Do you see any other major faults with her? Do you think her back should make or break the sale? Sorry about the pics. I know they're not conformation shots but these are all I have of her until I decide if I should go and try her out or not.
Any opinions are welcome.
Well, these are definitely not pictures I would choose if I were trying to sell this horse... I see a roach back too, plus her canons look pretty long all around, and her legs in those last pictures really worry me. It looks like she might be over at the knee, and her back canons look like they... curve out. I don't know what that is or why, but I would be worried. Her shoulder is very straight and her neck is short and set on really low. Overall, I don't like her. I would not pay 800 for her. I would go out and look at her in person to be sure since all you want is a trail horse for two beginners, maybe try to snap a few better pictures, but still keep looking for a better horse. I'm sure you can find a better conformed horse with just the right temperament for around the same price, with the horse market as it is...
Of course, I am an amateur at conformation and these pictures are a bit difficult to judge from, but still...
Edit: some of the pictures in the beginning make her legs look straight and her canons in the front a nice length, and her pasterns seem to be nice too, so again, I think judging her off of these pictures is difficult, and would suggest- if you're really interested- that you go see her in person. Possibly with someone who knows conformation well.
Looks like she could use a little more weight- more muscels- and a good worming. Her legs are real straight.. maybe a little too straight.. in those pictures she appears (to me) post legged- slab sided- forelegs too straight- her neck is under muscled- has a thicker throatlatch- but.. very nice feet! Is that a mustang?
I have no idea what breed/cross she is. I think we're going to go out and see her in person. I want to see how she moves both free and under saddle and make sure she is sound. They say that she gets ridden often and that she has been used for full day rides without a problem. The back is the biggest thing that worries me. We would only be using her for trails with beginner riders so she doesn't have to be pretty. She just has to be able to do her job.
With the conformation issues that she does have what price do you think I should offer for her if she is sound and sane when we try her out?
If she is going to be used a horse to pack around your husband and daughter, her attitude is the biggest part. Her confo is not so great, however, I would see how her demeanor is, if she is laid back and calm, agreeable, then a get a PPE.
Truthfully, if she's been packing folks around in a saddle that fits that poorly without having a fit, she's probably an absolute saint.
I'd go try her out. There is no reason why a horse with a back roached like hers (and it's a relatively prominent roach) can't be ridden comfortably for many years. The biggest problem you're going to run into will be fitting her with a saddle and pad that won't rub a sore on her spine right there. It appears in the "naked" pictures that she's had a sore on there quite a few times. I see white hair and possibly a bald spot on her spine.
However, I'd strongly recommend a thorough PPE, just to make sure her back's okay and hasn't been damaged by being ridden in poorly fitting saddles for so many years.
No joke! That saddle does not fit and if she's been tolerating that she is probably very cooperative. Conformationally her legs are a no go for me but if she's got the quiet demeanor you need, I'd go for it.
At age 15 and being used a lot she is sound. As noted.. she needs to have a properly fitted saddle when you get her.
You are looking for a horse that will pack less than experienced people on trails.. not looking for a horse to do Grand Prix jumping. She is conformationally correct for what you are planning.. and she has been doing that and been sound. Your may interest now is her disposition.
Try her and buy her.. but do get a properly fitting saddle for her. A little more weight will help her roach a bit as well.