(IMG HEAVY) 12 y/o TB gelding with new job - critique please!
 
 

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    08-26-2013, 11:34 PM
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(IMG HEAVY) 12 y/o TB gelding with new job - critique please!

Hey guys! So a few months ago I got extremely lucky and took home my soul horse. He's a rescue out of a Michigan herd that some woman just abandoned. I know very little history on him but from what I do know, he was described as dangerous, unpredictable, and with severe hock issues preventing him from being ridden. Keep in mind this diagnosis was made by people that claimed they couldn't even touch his hind end, never mind examine it. He was free and his transport fees and two months of board money were fundraised until I could find a new job. Things fell into place and he's been home since. Long story short, he didn't have hock problems. He had a severely messed up back (rotated pelvis and hips were out of alignment) and needed a couple good chiropractic sessions to loosen up. He has a serious work ethic and a serious attitude when he can't get something right.

Control the Devil (renamed to Speak of the Devil) a 12 year old pure Thoroughbred by Devil His Due. Had 33 starts and hasn't been racing for quite some time. Probably retired fairly young and was just a big pet his former owner. He's 16.2 1/2 with shoes and is solid black with a very deep red tint to his coat in the summer. He was a stallion up until about 3 months ago. Here's a link to his bloodlines in case anyone knows TB lines well and would like to comment. I'd love to hear it. Control The Devil Horse Pedigree

Devil hasn't had any previous training really. He was able to w/t/c fairly normally but knew next to nothing about how to move into contact and stretch down. In 3 months he has learned how to stretch and start to move correctly and start to accept contact while doing it. He REFUSES to go in a simple snaffle, I TRIED. After a speed round of bits in the ring, he goes the absolute best in the mylar 3-ring combo bit with the special leather noseband. My goals are to get him flatting in a french link with a soft mouth. Overall goals are to event with him as far as he can go. I am a hunter/jumper/eq rider looking for something more adventurous. Jumpers is where my heart is but eventing has always piqued my interest. We are moving to an eventing barn in September and will begin training in eventing. I have not even been to my first event, but have ridden for over a decade, love the crazies/problem horses, and have an eye only for TBs most of the time. They are my heart and soul breed.

Anyways, enough sappy rambling. Here are some pictures. Forgive him as he refuses to square up nicely. I did my best here. I'm curious as to what people see in him. Please be as detailed as possible. Feel free to draw on his pictures and post back if you'd like. See way below for pictures when he first came in to see his muscle progression so far.










Forgive my upper body in these pictures. He was sore this day and it took a lot out of me to get him to work through it.





And here are a few pictures of when he first came in:




I appreciate any and all input. I know his major faults and am excited to see what everyone else picks out.

Thanks!
     
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    08-27-2013, 10:50 AM
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Green Broke
See attached. This horse is a bit down hill and long through the coupling. His shoulder lays back relatively well, but the point of shoulder is a bit low so the angle from elbow to point of shoulder is a bit low.

The red line from root of neck to the point of buttock rises slightly indicating down hill build. This is inspite of him standing with his hind foot closer to the camera and at an angle so his hind foot is not even with the front (it looks placed lower). If the camera "film" plan were parallel to the horse's spine you could see much more that he is down hill in build.

The blue box on this side ahead of his hip shows how long he is through the coupling. He could "lose" all the blue box area and be a better horse for it (but, of course, you cannot cut that area out and move his rear forward! LOL). The arrow at the top of his point of croup shows what would be a better point of croup placement.

He is tied in a bit at the knee. He is a bit light in bone. His neck comes out of his chest a bit low. His hind leg is straight through the stifle and his stifle and hock placement are both a bit high.

His toes are too long in the front on photos. He needs those toes cut back a lot He has rotation that starts above the chest in both front legs and so he toes out.

All that being said, I like the look of him and you have done a wonderful job bringing him along. Have fun and see what he can do. He will stay sounder longer in front for jumping if you keep his toes shorter.
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    08-27-2013, 11:16 AM
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Yearling
No critique from me, just wanted to say I love his color AND his name!
     

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