So you're saying that people shouldn't ask for critique on their halter horses unless they are in good shape? -confused-
I find that a little unfair because sometimes some horses may be in the best shape of their lives but still have a belly.
Like my horse Ruester for example. He has amazing conformation and has won a few halter classes, even though he has a short back so his belly always hangs down.
So you're saying that people shouldn't ask for critique on their halter horses unless they are in good shape? -confused-
It would be very hard to know and judge how a horse would do at halter if the horse is not fit. Not all horses will fit up the same way and not all horses will have the bulk needed to do well in halter.
I find that a little unfair because sometimes some horses may be in the best shape of their lives but still have a belly.
Like my horse Ruester for example. He has amazing conformation and has won a few halter classes, even though he has a short back so his belly always hangs down.
Then he is not halter fit. It is like saying a runner who is in great shap should be able to do well in a body building show. Not going to happen and most likely no matter how much the runner wants to add that muscle they will never be able to do it. They are just not build like that.
Unless they are planning on doing breed shows or big shows in general i see no problem with it. Not to mention generally they are asking before the horse is actually doing the showing which is perfectly fine. My boy os in great shape but he still looks tubby not all horses slim up like halter bred and raised show horses no matter what you do. Posted via Mobile Device
Unless they are planning on doing breed shows or big shows in general i see no problem with it. Not to mention generally they are asking before the horse is actually doing the showing which is perfectly fine. My boy os in great shape but he still looks tubby not all horses slim up like halter bred and raised show horses no matter what you do. Posted via Mobile Device
OP why are you always so rude? I don't think I've ever seen you not post some thing rude. I mean, whats the point? You might as well have called this thread "you're all idiots" because that's basicly what you just said.
OP why are you always so rude? I don't think I've ever seen you not post some thing rude. I mean, whats the point? You might as well have called this thread "you're all idiots" because that's basicly what you just said.
No not all horses are the same and not all will look the same. Yes they can ve made to look better but that doesnt mean super slimmed and muscled out. Posted via Mobile Device
No not all horses are the same and not all will look the same. Yes they can ve made to look better but that doesnt mean super slimmed and muscled out. Posted via Mobile Device
If you are going to show a horse at halter and you want to do well your horse better be fit. It is just that simple even at local shows.
If you are going to post a horse an ask how it will do at halter the only real way to know is to first fit the horse. Not all horses will fit up in a way that will make them good for halter. Ex. I do not care how much I work my ZFH mare or how much I feed her she will never look like a halter horse or do well at halter even though she has impeckable conformation. She is just not built in such a way to carry a lot of buck. However I have anouther mare that I could easily put a lot of bulk on her and fit her to do well at halter. The ZFH mare has better conformation but the other mare would still do better at halter if she was fit for it.
I guess I must be the only one to think it is really sad and pathetic that a halter horse is judged on how much bulk can be packed onto them instead of their actual conformation.
But, then again, I guess if "fit is the name of the game in halter" that explains a lot. :?
...You are deliberately trying to anger people on here, and that's not keeping with the ideals of this forum. So what if other peoples' horses aren't fit? How is that any of your business? Those who are so critical of others may often find fault within themselves.
Additionally, I suspect your ideal halter horse looks like a beef bull walking on toothpicks. I'll pass. Thanks anyway.
...You are deliberately trying to anger people on here, and that's not keeping with the ideals of this forum. So what if other peoples' horses aren't fit? How is that any of your business? Those who are so critical of others may often find fault within themselves.
Additionally, I suspect your ideal halter horse looks like a beef bull walking on toothpicks. I'll pass. Thanks anyway.
Baiting is not really attractive.
That being said, I do agree that if someone posts asking about a horse's fitness for any particular thing, that assessment needs to be based on that particular perspective. However, I think that the level of showing needs to be considered as well -- offering an "honest" assessment of a horse's fitness for a high-level breed show when the poster is looking to show their horse at the county 4-H level is not really fitting.
At the end of the day, OP, if/when you come across a post where someone is asking for a critique of their horse's fitness for halter, give your assessment *shrugs* I don't really understand the need to create a thread specifically to air your issues with this whole thing when you could simply do exactly that.
Baiting is not really attractive.
That being said, I do agree that if someone posts asking about a horse's fitness for any particular thing, that assessment needs to be based on that particular perspective. However, I think that the level of showing needs to be considered as well -- offering an "honest" assessment of a horse's fitness for a high-level breed show when the poster is looking to show their horse at the county 4-H level is not really fitting.
At the end of the day, OP, if/when you come across a post where someone is asking for a critique of their horse's fitness for halter, give your assessment *shrugs* I don't really understand the need to create a thread specifically to air your issues with this whole thing when you could simply do exactly that.
So sorry Ripper that none of us have horses that are beefed up/waddling enough for your taste. However, no one is begging you to critique their horses. Especially if you are snide and condescending about it.
Well, I posted a horse that wasn't really fit. I know he's not. But I wanted to know if his conformation was too off for halter. But like Nrhareiner said, I probably have to get him fit before I could get a fair answer. Something I didn't consider, but now I will. Posted via Mobile Device
Well, I posted a horse that wasn't really fit. I know he's not. But I wanted to know if his conformation was too off for halter. But like Nrhareiner said, I probably have to get him fit before I could get a fair answer. Something I didn't consider, but now I will. Posted via Mobile Device
I always thought halter was to judge the horse, not how much muscle is packed on his ill-conformed body... first comes conformation, then fitness. A badly conformed horse shouldn't win anything just because of his muscle mass. Just my opinion.
Exactly -TRR - as much as some would insist that what you posted is the epitome of a fit horse, I see a horse that is unnaturally bulked to the point of possible UNhealhtiness......
Okay heres the real deal This is NOT photochopped He is the real deal on what some concider IDEAL to me is gross and un natural This horse carries the HYPP gene
When the question is "How will my horse do in halter classes", then yes, fit is a big deal. You take two horses, both conformed pretty similarly, put them in a class together, the fit one is going to do better. It's just the way it works, whether at small shows or not.
If you ask about the horse's conformation, then fit really isn't put into play, because that doesn't change with fitness, although you can enhance and hide certain aspects.
Ok, I know I'm feeding a troll here, but OP what's your position about asking for critiques for jumpers, or eventers, or other English disciplines when people have just gotten a horse, or are looking to buy one? By that I mean... do they need to buy, train (or pay a trainer), etc before they have the right to ask for a critique? Wouldn't they already know at that point? Same as a fit halter horse. if someone buys a halter horse that's all fit, why wouldn't they just take the horse to a show and get the judge's opinion, rather than a bunch of shmoe's (myself included) opinions??
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