We've been through this before, but you'd be hard-pressed to find an actual Appaloosa, anywhere. Why? Because the breed was recreated from colored stock, only. Initially, in the early days of the ApHC and the Appaloosa "breed" as a whole, that was the only requirement. There was some consideration given to type, but not bloodline, and there is wide variance when looking at "foundation" Appaloosas. No consistency at all. They certainly aren't the same as the horses the Nez Perce were breeding, nor are they the same as the spotted Spanish stock. To say that outcrossing to AQHA ruined the breed is to ignore the fact that there was never a breed to begin with, and that outcrossing was allowed from the very beginning. The first registered ApHC horses weren't purebred Appaloosa. There is no such thing as a purebred Appaloosa....now, or then.
I agree. However, the ApHC was started to scrouge whatever they could to bring back the breed. the studbooks should of been closed after they had a diverse enough number of horses to breed in a closed studbook. It was never closed however. So how can they expect to preserve a breed when they allow you to bring in any QH, Arabian, or TB? You can never expect to have a breed if you keep allowing it. I was very sad watching the national show this year to see 90% of the horses being plain... brown.
That said, I do have a lot of experience with highly foundation-bred ApHC Apps and foundation/Arab crosses. Nice horses, but not exactly the epitome of versatility that's supposed to characterize the breed. And again, nothing resembling the supposed origins of the American Appaloosa. Despite extremely limited QH blood, they resembled colored QH's more than anything else.
A lot of stock horses resemble QHs. Its a type that was used on ranches. QH was used extensively along with TB and Arabian.. to bring back the breed. WHen you think of versatility. You think of a horse that can excel in several areas. English, western, trail, endurance etc.
It depends on the event. If I am interested in showing my horse, I definitely want its ancestors to have had winning show records. Bloodlines absolutely do matter when breeding for certain events. If I want a sound, sane horse, placings in speed events (no politics there) and trail type classes mean a whole lot. Or if I want a really good trail horse I can ride all day, I'd love to see endurance records (again, that has nothing to do with money or prestige). If I want a horse to work cattle, he **** sure better have a cowy background, and that carries a lot more merit if he has points in team penning/sorting, cutting, working cowhorse, etc. If a horse has not competed against other horses, it's difficult to objectively evaluate how it would perform against its peers.
I totally agree with you there. My personal horses are suited for all round horses. Suitable for Trail, endurance, and the all around 4H, open horse. Several of my horses were shown by me growing up and in adulthood and were always in ribbons in not just one type (english vs western) of competition. I do not compete at the breed level and show for personal enjoyment. Several of my mares have competed in competitive trail rides though because of their age are now not suited for doing 17+ mile rides. Ive got a couple of youngsters that have a few more years before I can start competing again in endurance type events. To raise a horse from birth and train it in endurance takes 5+ years.
See, to me this horse has pretty blech conformation. He's built to overreach, with a weaker back, and short/thick/upright/bull/ewe neck. With his lean composition, I could see him having good endurance, but he sure doesn't look like any kind of athlete (or fancy mover). What has he done, or what is he famous for?
This horse was born in 1982. He is mainly famous for his size at 17 hands. and his loud leopard color. :) Frank Scripter bred leopards for many years thinking that with enough generations of lpxlp breedings that you would get higher % of leopard babies.
We now know that a lpxlp breeding will consistantly produce 25% fewspot, 50% leopards, and 25% solid NC horses.