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        08-21-2014, 10:17 PM
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    Yearling
    Looking at this QH tomorrow. Critique?

    2007 Bay Grandson of Dry Doc & Greatgrandson of Easily Smashed Will be used for intermediate to advanced trail riding. Will be testing him out on the trails and not the ring tomorrow.
         
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        08-21-2014, 10:32 PM
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    Showing
    He appears to be worth a look. Nice bloodlines and appears to have a good temperament if he can do all the things they claim. A bit long through the back and weak through the coupling with a weaker hind end. Would probably have difficulty collecting but should make a decent trail/working horse.

    My only concern, and I'm hoping it's just due to a wonky picture angle, is that his feet look a little jacked in that one side picture. Not sure if that's the way they really look or if it's a botched photoshop job.

    Keep in mind that this all may just be funky things that aren't really there in real life. I'm only judging from one picture. His fronts look severely under-run and judging from the angles of his hooves and just the way his lower legs look, it looks like someone either really stood him up (shortened the toe and left the heel long, which would make the under-run heels worse) or put wedge pads on him to stand him up (which also make it worse). His hinds look pretty much the same; severely under-run, upright with long heels.

    I'd darn sure have a thorough PPE done on him.
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        08-21-2014, 11:42 PM
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    This horse reminds me of a friends horse who was a great looking fellow, but the way his hocks moved was odd, and I think would lead to being lame in oldder years.


    This horse is a bit cowhocked, and looking at the walking shot, I think he may have that same "rolling" gait, where the hock moves a lot from side to side when the horse pushes off , and it literally makes the hoof rotate on the ground at push off. Really hard to explain. I wish there was a video of him walking. I could be totally, completely off base, but the way in the walking picture he steps under himself quite a bit, with the hock angling outward, then, as he pushes off that hock, I bet it will swing around to be more inside. A lot of side to side motion, kind of rocking and rolling, not straight through.

    Anyone know what I am talking about and is there a name for this?

    This photo:

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        08-21-2014, 11:52 PM
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    Showing
    I don't have a real name for it, but I know what can cause it in some horses. If the hind feet aren't balanced to the bone structure of the leg (many farriers just balance the bottom of the hoof to the heel bulbs but those aren't always correct), it can cause the "wobbly leg syndrome".

    Watched a good farrier friend (only non-family member I would ever trust to touch my horses' feet) show off on how easy it is to cause. He purposefully trimmed a horse by balancing his hind feet to the bulbs only. When the horse walked off, his hocks were wobbling all over the place. Bring him back in and trim him to the bone structure and he walked off just straight as you please without a hint of wobble.
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        08-22-2014, 12:22 AM
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    Yearling
    Here he is moving. Tell me more! Advanced trail riding is my goal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-NPJjvr4zI
         
        08-22-2014, 12:29 AM
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    I dunno . . . . Awful lot of tail swishing going on there.

    I know that you'll get a lot of negative feedback in general when you ask for a public critique, but I gotta say, this one just looks like an uncomfortable horse, for what reason I cannot say.
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        08-22-2014, 12:31 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    He appears to be worth a look. Nice bloodlines and appears to have a good temperament if he can do all the things they claim. A bit long through the back and weak through the coupling with a weaker hind end. Would probably have difficulty collecting but should make a decent trail/working horse.

    My only concern, and I'm hoping it's just due to a wonky picture angle, is that his feet look a little jacked in that one side picture. Not sure if that's the way they really look or if it's a botched photoshop job.

    Keep in mind that this all may just be funky things that aren't really there in real life. I'm only judging from one picture. His fronts look severely under-run and judging from the angles of his hooves and just the way his lower legs look, it looks like someone either really stood him up (shortened the toe and left the heel long, which would make the under-run heels worse) or put wedge pads on him to stand him up (which also make it worse). His hinds look pretty much the same; severely under-run, upright with long heels.

    I'd darn sure have a thorough PPE done on him.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-NPJjvr4zI
         
        08-22-2014, 12:32 AM
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    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    I don't have a real name for it, but I know what can cause it in some horses. If the hind feet aren't balanced to the bone structure of the leg (many farriers just balance the bottom of the hoof to the heel bulbs but those aren't always correct), it can cause the "wobbly leg syndrome".

    Watched a good farrier friend (only non-family member I would ever trust to touch my horses' feet) show off on how easy it is to cause. He purposefully trimmed a horse by balancing his hind feet to the bulbs only. When the horse walked off, his hocks were wobbling all over the place. Bring him back in and trim him to the bone structure and he walked off just straight as you please without a hint of wobble.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-NPJjvr4zI
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        08-22-2014, 12:35 AM
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    i dunno . . . . Awful lot of tail swishing going on there.

    I know that you'll get a lot of negative feedback in general when you ask for a public critique, but I gotta say, this one just looks like an uncomfortable horse, for what reason I cannot say.
    I always appreciate your opinion Tiny but he looks a LOT more comfortable than my choppy Pali. Just sayin".
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        08-22-2014, 12:40 AM
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    It could be part of him just not being used to riding in an arena, with other horses. Liike I said, . . I dunno.

    I try to be positive in my outlook on online presentations of horses, and what I wrote was just an impression. There was just something about his way of going that rang a bell in my memory of another horse . But, trying him out will be the real litmus test on whether or not he "feels" good. '
    He has many good points to his conformation, and the horse I mentioned , when I spoke of one he reminded me of , was a lovely fellow. He was a bit "trippy" on the trails, but if you got him willing to work, his gaits were good, and I actually got some good scores riding him in dressage. So, who knows?
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