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  • Hollow before withers
  • Towel as temporary saddle pads

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    11-07-2012, 11:09 PM
  #11
Foal
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Well, the first thing is that if their withers are so completely different, then you'll likely need 2 saddles because a saddle that fits one well probably won't fit the other very well at all.

Beyond that, it's hard to really tell much just by those pictures. Can you get some that are closer and from several different angles showing their withers/back?
Here is one of LB probably not a good one. I'll be going out there tomorrow and take more pictures of them for you to see.
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    11-12-2012, 12:59 AM
  #12
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by IndianHorseWhisperer    
I was told that Circle Y and Dakota saddles generally fit Arabian crosses really well but I have cheap generic trail saddles that up until now fit my past equine clientele.
Actually your saddles on your previous equine clientele didn't fit at all. And towels are not saddle pads either From the looks of your facebook page you need a serious update and revamp on your tack, especially if you want to be a professional trainer. You can not properly train horses in ill fitting tack. It is nice to see though that you put Little Bit in a bareback pad. Much better choice.

The cheap generic saddles don't fit horses. They are built like crud and pinch in all the wrong spots. There is a reason they are cheap.

My suggestion would be to get some quality used saddles. You can get a nice quality used saddle in the same price range as the new generic saddles.
     
    11-12-2012, 07:32 PM
  #13
Yearling
OP, if you cannot afford a quality saddle, is it possible to loan one from the horses' owners? If they have saddles that already fit their horses that will really help. That means you can continue training and in the mean time save up to buy one or two nice ones for yourself.
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    11-13-2012, 02:52 AM
  #14
Weanling
They just don't have as pronounced withers as some horses.
     
    11-14-2012, 10:30 PM
  #15
Foal
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Originally Posted by NBEventer    
Actually your saddles on your previous equine clientele didn't fit at all. And towels are not saddle pads either From the looks of your facebook page you need a serious update and revamp on your tack, especially if you want to be a professional trainer. You can not properly train horses in ill fitting tack. It is nice to see though that you put Little Bit in a bareback pad. Much better choice.

The cheap generic saddles don't fit horses. They are built like crud and pinch in all the wrong spots. There is a reason they are cheap.

My suggestion would be to get some quality used saddles. You can get a nice quality used saddle in the same price range as the new generic saddles.


In the September '97 issue of Horse Illustrated Magazine, Expert Saddle Fitter Bonnie Kreitler said, and I quote, "Small house towels may be a temporary fix for English saddles with trees that fit the horse well, but need very little panel adjustment". Which is what that was back then. A temporary fix. Thank you very much and have a nice day :)
     
    11-14-2012, 10:32 PM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by Equilove    
OP, if you cannot afford a quality saddle, is it possible to loan one from the horses' owners? If they have saddles that already fit their horses that will really help. That means you can continue training and in the mean time save up to buy one or two nice ones for yourself.
The owner's endurance saddle is what doesn't fit her so we are going to trade it out for a saddle with FQHB that should fit her big butt just fine
     
    11-14-2012, 10:47 PM
  #17
Started
IHW - my mare's got the flattest back in the world xD so I feel your pain. Unfortunately I'm going to need to get her a treeless saddle - even the widest wintec gullet is too tight on her :P
Have you looked into some quality treeless options?

Also - please don't take this critically, a saddle is better without a pad than with a towel. '97 was 15 years ago, we've come far in equine welfare sense then. The reason towels are not good is because they can bunch up and cause pressure points under the saddle. It can also rub the hair backwards or pinch. Being broke myself I've found it quite easy to make saddle pads Just go to a fabric store and get some fabric, and some quilt padding and sew it all together! It's much cheaper than $50 pads x.x But if the saddle fits appropriately you're better off without a pad at all - many people do that the first few rides in a saddle anyway to get the leather soft and supple.

Another cheap fix is to just go bareback :P the lucky thing about wide-backed, hard to fit horses is that they're really freaking comfy bareback horses!! Hehe ^^ My mare's like a couch!
     
    11-14-2012, 10:48 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by IndianHorseWhisperer    
The owner's endurance saddle is what doesn't fit her so we are going to trade it out for a saddle with FQHB that should fit her big butt just fine
I have a fat horse as well. She came to me that way, and we're working on it, but fitting her to a saddle is tough.

Then my other 2 horses are TB geldings with shark-fin withers. One has a broad chest, the other is more lean. I think I'm going to end up with 3 different saddles... lol.

It's a big investment but it's SO worth it (having good fitting saddles). You can feel the horse properly, and since the horse is more comfortable, it'll move out better for you. Think about how you feel going out with clothes that are too small, or too big, or pinch you, etc. I'm sure I don't have to stress the importance of well-fitted tack to you, but you get the point ! :)
     
    11-14-2012, 10:50 PM
  #19
Started
Equi - have you looked into treeless options? I'm not sure exactly how they work but I hear they're supposed to be usuable for almost all types of backs - IDK though, but it may save you in the long run
     
    11-14-2012, 11:03 PM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
Equi - have you looked into treeless options? I'm not sure exactly how they work but I hear they're supposed to be usuable for almost all types of backs - IDK though, but it may save you in the long run
I have. I'd really like to get into dressage with my younger gelding, so I'm currently saving up to buy a nice quality dressage saddle that will fit him. My older gelding (who I just got) is lean, but he is also underweight. He's going to have the winter off from riding anyway because he needs to get healthy again, so by spring I'll see what his body is like.

As for my mare... My friend has a saddle that I use on her that fits her pretty well with a "flimsy" saddle pad. If I use too thick of a pad, it will be too narrow on her. If I sit it on her without a pad at all, it looks perfect. So I use a "TackyTack" non-slip pad for the short rides we do have. This saddle is her "fat pants" because she needs to lose weight badly, and I think she could squeeze into a medium tree if I work her hard enough >.< I've had someone else say that as well.

So anyway... I would LOVE to have a treeless saddle. They look super comfy.
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