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        06-14-2013, 11:34 AM
      #101
    Yearling
    Elana, all I'm saying is that where there is a will, there is a way. It's not always true, but I can think of several ways for her to get hay to that horse, even if it's a single bale.

    1) Homeless people use dollys or portable cart things all the time back home to transport their goods.

    2) My abovementioned crazy mom used to make me walk 5 miles a day TO my elementary school and 5 miles back, and oftentimes we'd pick up groceries or library books in bulk and carry those things too. (The mileage I just figured out through Mapquest). My hands would be red and painful, and my backpack full, but with that suffering, I ate and fed my mind.

    If my mom can do that just to avoid the local school, what's stopping the OP from doing that with a single bale of hay? Just saying...

    3) No one will give her a ride for a bale of hay? No friends, no family with a car?

    4) Failing a car, what about a bike? I've seen people rig up those back pieces that could surely support a single bale of hay.

    5) What about the city bus? Are there any? If so, those could take her part way at least. I've taken embarassing things on the bus before, but it had to be done.

    6) Failing in all those things, what about begging for help? Out of all the places with hay, I imagine at least one person could be guilted into helping and driving a bale or two over. Hell, I WOULD DO IT to save someone's starving horse, if it was an extenuating circumstance and not the norm!!!!



    Have you guys read that thread about the horse in the foreign country? It was a couple months ago. The kids would walk several miles with a backpack of sorts, just to PULL GRASS (BY HAND) and bring grass home for their beloved cart horse.


    If all these measures seem extra nuts, and it's better to let the horse suffer slowly on ten pounds of rice bran, then maybe the OP needs to rehome that horse before it dies a slow and horrible death. I do not like being the bad guy, but sometimes it is better to sit down and calmly but honestly tell the absolute truth of a matter before we come to the point of no return.
         
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        06-14-2013, 11:40 AM
      #102
    Yearling
    OP, you NEED to get rid of this horse. You are KILLING, ABUSING, and NEGLECTING this horse. Please please please for this poor little horse, rehome her to someone who can provide her with the care she needs.
    What are you going to do if she needs emergency vet care?
    You are refusing to supply her with hay, that is abuse and neglect, plain and simple. I'm biting my tongue before I really go off, but it is not okay to make a poor animal suffer because you have "cute wittle pony" syndrome.
    Go back to school, get financially independent, take riding lessons, learn a horses head from its butt, then try again with horse ownership. Stop using your lack of knowledge and your ignorance to terrorize this animal.
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        06-14-2013, 11:42 AM
      #103
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    Hmm. Maybe it is different in that area, Elana. Our hay has always been delivered and anything else we needed from the dealers. This for at least the last forty years. Sometimes we have paid the drivers and sometimes by credit card when ordering on the 'phone.

    Years ago, we were on location for a year and lived in Kingsport. Tennessee. I did great deal of travelling through that entire area, including into Virginia, West Virginia and NC. I was also shocked at much of that which I came across. I saw kids with shoes with soles falling off. Some had no shoes. Kids scratching coal out of the earth. People living in huts up on blocks, with newspaper tacked to the walls for insulation. Many had almost no food. I guess that is why Jim Jones started feeding the hungry in the area. He has done great things for those people. Christmas that year, we brought in shoes. Hundreds of pairs of shoes, so the kids could actually walk through the hills and attend school. I could tell more, but won't. Just want others to know there are people in this country, very close to starvation. Don't know if Jim still have his TV show, but if you need to be convinced, watch it some time.

    Lizzie
         
        06-14-2013, 11:57 AM
      #104
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    I saw kids with shoes with soles falling off. Some had no shoes. Kids scratching coal out of the earth. People living in huts up on blocks, with newspaper tacked to the walls for insulation. Many had almost no food. I guess that is why Jim Jones started feeding the hungry in the area. He has done great things for those people. Christmas that year, we brought in shoes. Hundreds of pairs of shoes, so the kids could actually walk through the hills and attend school.

    I could tell more, but won't. Just want others to know there are people in this country, very close to starvation.

    Lizzie
    Lizzie, this may be so, but the OP has a cell phone and talks about buying a new computer.

    Cell phones generally cost money. Even if it's paid by welfare cash, I imagine there's a couple dollars there. Or hell, pull grass like the kids in that third world country!

    If she's talking about shampoo, grooming supplies, trainers at 125 an hour, etc.


    PS) I just rescued a starving 2 year old colt this weekend. He's a foundation QH colt and when the breeder can, she will finally send in the breeder report, and he is registerable. ALL her horses are registered, I think.








    He is severely stunted from WORMS and lack of food. Can you believe he is 2?

    She has no water. She runs it from her aunt, the neighbor. She doesn't have power either!!!

    Oh and she just got flooded.

    OP, this lady, with originally 18 head on this tiny tiny property, no water, and no power--her horses have more food than yours! And that is a shame!!!

    I am truly, truly trying to help, but as long as the OP makes excuses, excuses are being made FOR her, and she agrees that things need to change but doesn't change anything, the horse will continue to suffer.

    Here are a couple others:





    I don't know if you can see right up on the fence, but she has a bunch of bales of fresh hay that got damp, so she dumped them all next to the fence for the horses. She has a few more dry ones with a tarp over them...
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        06-14-2013, 12:06 PM
      #105
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    Demonwolfmoon, I was not really speaking of the OP, but adding to something Elana said about the general area. I have already (in another message) stated what I think of how the OP is doing or not.

    Lizzie
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        06-14-2013, 12:25 PM
      #106
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Elana    
    BTW RBarlo32, I absolutely love your Shetlands and your location in the Shetland Islands. I am sure it is a challenging life.. but very worth it.
    Thank you, it can be hard in winter but definitely worth it, not really something that could be explained to understand the true beauty of Shetland you would have to come visit for you self. Winter is tough but we seem to get through them a lot poorer then the start and tired waiting for our week or so of summer to come, we get about 3 hours of proper sunlight. Where we get our hay doesn't deliver unless it is a big order which we would have nowhere to store it, so we went to the feed store every couple of days to get hay and when our 4x4 broke down it changed to every day sometimes twice a day.

    OP if you can drive couldn't you borrow a car from someone if no one can give you a lift?
         
        06-14-2013, 12:37 PM
      #107
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    Demonwolfmoon, I was not really speaking of the OP, but adding to something Elana said about the general area. I have already (in another message) stated what I think of how the OP is doing or not.

    Lizzie
    Lizzie, I am not directing anything at you per se, I was just pointing out that per the info we have been given, that's not the OP's situation. Sorry if it sounded that way. :(
    I am just so frustrated!

    There is always some reason why people can't follow through with their responsibilities, and if its not one thing its another!

    The crap thing is, its the animals that really end up suffering. :(
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        06-14-2013, 12:48 PM
      #108
    Weanling
    How does bags of grain get to the place..if transports an issue?
         
        06-14-2013, 12:53 PM
      #109
    Started
    During the last few years, I think we have seen a tremendous rise in animal abuse. Whole herds of horses and kennels of dogs, left to starve and/or fend for themselves. Had a case of it just last night here, on our local news. Our rescues are full and many cannot take on more cases. Yet people still breed and breed and breed. Not speaking here of those who have waiting lists and are breeding animals of quality, but of those who breed just because they have a mare and a handy stallion down the road. In an age when even some top horses find themselves in unfortunate circumstances, there is absolutely no room for the others.

    I never thought to ask the OP, where she actually purchased her horse, from whom and why she chose that particular filly. And most of all, why they have not mentored her.

    Lizzie
         
        06-14-2013, 01:47 PM
      #110
    Trained
    I know people in my area would KILL for hay to be $3-7 a bale. Right now, we're paying $19 for a 90lbs bale of alfalfa, $21 for a 90lbs bale of Bermuda grass, and $24 for a 60lbs bale of timothy.

    When hay was half the cost it is now (about three summers ago), I fed my gelding (my old gelding who was a 14.2hh, 900lbs Arab/NSH cross who was in work five days a week) for $20 per week. I bought one bale of alfalfa and one bale of Bermuda per week. He got free access to the Bermuda via a hay net and then alfalfa morning and night. I didn't have a job and I was a full-time college student. Wanna know how I paid for his feed and board? I taught piano lessons and cleaned houses to pay for his feed and my gas, and I cleaned ten stalls a day and exercised four horses a day to cover his board.

    The saying "Where there's a will, there's a way" seems especially appropriate here. It doesn't seem like the OP has the will to do the right thing for her horse. All the placating words in the world don't translate to an actual desire to do what needs to be done.

    And I agree with the point about the phone. In order to post on her phone, she has to have a smartphone. Even a pay-as-you-go plan is a minimum $45, plus you have to buy the phone outright (usually $200+ for the smartphones). That's IF there's service with the pay-as-you-go where she lives. If not and she's on a major carrier with a plan, that's a minimum $60-90 a month, depending on the carrier.
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