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  • Steep croup on jumper
  • Conformation faults that cause soundness problems in jumpers

 
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    04-04-2013, 02:35 PM
  #1
Foal
Need help from all the Jumpers out there...

Hello all,

I posted this a couple weeks ago asking for a conformational critique on my 3 year old for jumping and got many responses on his conformation (thank you all) regarding general things, but I am looking to start jumping this guy in a couple of years and would like to see if people who jump regularly see any major conformational faults that may cause a problem. I plan on doing 2 years or so of arena/trail/flat work to give him a good foundation and develop his muscling a little bit and let him finish growing before I start jumping. As I said in my previous post, he is in a 20x20 right now and is turned out a few times a week so his muscling is going to improve with time and growth. I do expect him to widen a bit more and take care of some of the rotation that you will see in the photos. I have also attached a photo of his dam and sire is that will help with the conformational critique.

Thank you to everyone.
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    04-08-2013, 02:44 PM
  #2
Green Broke
He doesnt seem to have terrible conformation for it.
Long legs, nice shoulder and when he developes more muscle, not a bad hind end either.
The only thing that bothers me are his pasterns, particularly the backs.They are very upright and slightly "stocked-up-looking". He's also cowhocked, though I don't know how that will affect his future abilities.
Some horses can be quite hindered by their bodily faults, whereas others may do perfectly fine. All depends on the horse
     
    04-12-2013, 10:22 PM
  #3
Started
I agree with the above poster, his pasterns are really the only bigger thing I see. Upright and slightly longer. He does have a steep croup also. His neck is a bit thick at the throat latch and ties in low at his chest.

The worst thing is his hooves. His hooves are very overgrown, way past a trim. Get a farrier out!
     
    04-12-2013, 10:58 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by caseymyhorserocks    
I agree with the above poster, his pasterns are really the only bigger thing I see. Upright and slightly longer. He does have a steep croup also. His neck is a bit thick at the throat latch and ties in low at his chest.

The worst thing is his hooves. His hooves are very overgrown, way past a trim. Get a farrier out!
thanks for the critique! ;) good info for the discipline....his hooves were trimmed about a week ago...I will try to post new pics
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    04-13-2013, 10:01 AM
  #5
Foal
He looks a bit toed out in the front
     
    04-13-2013, 02:30 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by lilruffian    
He doesnt seem to have terrible conformation for it.
Long legs, nice shoulder and when he developes more muscle, not a bad hind end either.
The only thing that bothers me are his pasterns, particularly the backs.They are very upright and slightly "stocked-up-looking". He's also cowhocked, though I don't know how that will affect his future abilities.
Some horses can be quite hindered by their bodily faults, whereas others may do perfectly fine. All depends on the horse
I've been told that being cowhocked is one of the more minor conformational flaws - apparently it doesn't usually severely affect the horse's performance or cause soundness problems
     
    04-14-2013, 01:22 PM
  #7
Yearling
Personally, I don't see him as especially ideally suited for jumping... That's not to say he couldn't jump at all - just that his conformation doesn't lean me to believe he is built for it.

His neck is low set, with a rather steep shoulder slope, he looks to be a bit closed for shoulder angle. This is going to limit his scope... And while scope isn't the be all end all of a jumper, it certainly helps. (What his shoulder tells me is that it will have a somewhat limited range of motion)
He may just be standing underhimself, but I wonder if he might be a bit back at the knee, and he does look tied in at the knee... Both of these faults can weaken a horse's legs, but doesn't necessarily mean he WILL have issues. From the front he might be a little toed out, but nothing truly concerning.
This shot makes it hard to tell, but I think his LS placement MIGHT be set back a bit further than ideal, but he also has a nice loin shape telling me the area will be strong, but, his pelvic angle is steep, and he looks straight behind(post legged) - both of these reduce the ability to shift gears, and thrusting power. That said, his hindquarter matches itself consistently, and he seems to have a nice enough hindlimb set from behind. (I have a feeling that some of this is skewed a bit by the angle the shot was taken at, so the faults may not be as they seem either)

The thing about jumpers is that sometimes, while some conformation traits are known to help make a great jumper, a horse can defy all logic when it comes to ability to clear fences. I have seen some very interesting looking horses clear impressive fences, they just didn't have classic style.
     
    04-15-2013, 02:19 PM
  #8
Foal
Thank you everyone for all the help! It is very helpful to hear :)
     

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