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    12-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Newbie with a request!

Hi there! I am looking at a 6 y/o AQHA mare tomorrow and am hoping to take a few pictures to use the conformation tutorial. :) Until then, I do have one decent conformation shot from the owner. What do you think?

I'd ride trails, western pleasure and perhaps reining or barrels. Thoughts?

PS the shot is not straight-on, so her bum isn't that far above her withers-- see the second image for reference! (she's backing in that shot)
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    12-04-2012, 01:07 AM
I'd love to help you but honestly, I can't see nearly half the horse due to the shadows in the picture :(. It could be my computer and someone else can see something more than I can.

Good luck tomorrow :)
    12-04-2012, 01:08 AM
She seams to be in nice shape to me but it is hard to judge from a picture
    12-04-2012, 01:12 AM
Bah! Yeah, I had a feeling I'd have to take my own pictures, but thought it couldn't hurt just in case someone saw something I didn't. :) Here's the video they posted with her ad:

I'll let you know how it goes and hopefully return with better pictures!
    12-04-2012, 08:43 AM
Green Broke
VERY forehand heavy. She (he?) is quiet and all.. and that is great.. but she needs to be worked to get off her forehand. It will be difficult because she is built downhill.

Also, for a horse with any amount of training, she should have not had to trot into the lope. She should have walked into the lope or loped off from a stand. She stops on her forehand. I did not see even a simple change of lead (couple of trot strides between changes) and no leg yielding at all. I love how quiet she is but I think her training should be further along, especially for $4k.
    12-04-2012, 01:00 PM
Elana, I agree with you about being heavy on the forehand. I have been away from this for too long, but that was the term I was looking for. Thank you! Question, though-- aren't most horses downhill? Or do you find her particularly downhill?

Also, I think the owner may have been bs'ing on craigslist, because I found her on another website for $3200. ;)
    12-04-2012, 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by existentialpony    
Also, I think the owner may have been bs'ing on craigslist, because I found her on another website for $3200. ;)
Not sure what horses are going for in your area. Here in my area of Florida, excluding the warmblood craze that's going on here, I could probably get a similar horse for around $1,500.00. Depending on a lot of factors of course. Folks outside of the huge horse farms are pretty desperate and horses can stay on the market a LONG time.
    12-04-2012, 01:22 PM
Green Broke
This is a $1,000 horse for that level training in this market for a 6 year old. NO, most horses are NOT down hill. I do not like a down hill horse because it is very hard for them to get off their forehand and collect. It is very hard for them to drop their butt and slide to a stop for reining. It is very hard for them to shift weight to the rear for flying changes of lead or even to transition up to the next gait or down to a slower gait and not fall apart. She falls apart when she is stopped from the lope. She has her nose tucked in and low in that little tiny circle they open with.. what is the point of that and what is that showing and what is the horse learning?

Beyond that she is being ridden in a long shanked bit and she is over the bit as a result. The rider is steering her like a truck instead of neck reining because the horse is so green. Horse should still be in a snaffle or a side pull. The result of the long shanked bit and the open hands.. is this horse that works from front to back and not from back to front and dodges her head unnaturally low.

Nice enough horse.. love the disposition.. but this horse needs training with someone who will take the time to lay a foundation and get her working off her hind quarters. Give this horse a different rider who will ride her back to front and she might be pretty good.
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    12-04-2012, 01:49 PM
Around here, she would be priced as she is, or maybe more depending on breeding.

She is built downhill and heavy on forehand. You can see how stiff and jolting her canter is. Some of that is due to her having rather wideset front legs.

But, for trail riding I bet she'd be awesome! I like her and her temperment seemed really nice. I bet she can be improved a lot. Temperament is everything, so if you like her and she's willing to move out with a bit more umph when you try her out (cause you will need a willing horse to be able to ask her to step more under herslef and lift the forehand), then I'd give her serious consideration as a good mount.
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    12-04-2012, 01:57 PM
In my area she would be worth that. Well broke horses are hard to come by.

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