Originally Posted by Calming Melody
Ya I believe they both are
Since you don't seem 100% certain, I would suggest having your vet check that fact when you have him out to give them a health exam (always good when bringing new animals into the mix, especially as you have thrown them right in with the rest of your population
As for his goal weight - think of it as a target fitness/body condition level rather than a specific number on the scale. Familiarize yourself with the body condition scale for horses and set your goal to bring them both to optimum condition through nutrition and exercise.