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    05-09-2013, 12:17 PM
Agree Elana, nice horse. Too much for this rider.
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    05-09-2013, 01:34 PM
Hi guys, thanks for the feedback. No, that isn't me in the videos, it is her current caretaker (her owner passed away).
    05-09-2013, 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by hemms    
Head bob = lameness
Head toss = attitude

Clearly tossing in this instance, unrelated to gait. I'm assuming her dental is up to date and the bit is one she likes. She's certainly light in the mouth.

History on this mare..?

I get the sense she's used to clear, concisive work, rather than the aimless distracted nonsense in this vid. I think she's looking for the plan and actually likes to work. I see strong dressage values to her way of going around.

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Sorry, English isn't my first language, and both words seem to describe the same thing.
Only known history: original owner passed away, she was passed on to a woman who sent her to the current caretaker for 30 days of training, with the request that she be "fixed" in that time (she was becoming dangerously pushy with the person who inherited her). The trainer said it would take more time, and the first person relinquished ownership to the trainer. Trainer (person in the videos) wants to find her a good home, and says she has made huge progress since she first met her, and is in fact a very sweet mare who enjoys attention and work.
    05-09-2013, 02:24 PM
Oh my gosh, that horse looks and acts exactly like my WB mare when I go her back in 2010. I love the looks, think with some training and work put into the horse it will make an awesome mount. I agree with the others, the person in both videos is def. The wrong one to handle that horse. If you don't take the horse I would be more than interested :0) But unfortunately I am not "allowed" to get another one right now... If you give it a go keep us posted and best luck! You will def. Have one good looking horse
    05-09-2013, 02:44 PM
What do you plan to do with her? Would it be more of the NH or whatever BS this woman is bugging the mare with? If you are planning on riding dressage or just plain RIDING her, with a trainer, asking her to work (without all the bizarre circling and rein manipulations this woman is doing) I think she is worth it and more. She's big and looks lazy - she IS a WB ;), no surprise there - but she looks sound and the head tossing issue may well have to do with that rider's lack of skills, teeth, bit, etc.

I'd take her in a heartbeat :)
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    05-09-2013, 02:57 PM
She's planned to arrive June 1st if all goes well. I am SUPER excited and a little nervous, but I have a barn full of very experienced horse people (from NH to dressage to h/j) to help if I hit a wall on her training. If for whatever reason it doesn't work out with her in my care, I will rehome her fairly and will post here first. :p But for now, finders keepers! ;)
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    05-09-2013, 10:36 PM
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THIS kind of stuff is what gives NH a BAD name. If that is the horse's "trainer', no wonder she has a head problem. She was congratulated for tossing her head, and the woman was not ABLE to hold the reins correctly, and not qualified to trot, much LESS canter!!!


Do not do that mumbo-jumbo with her, just push her forward into a steady hand, and she will work, I 'd bet. I am not a horse, and yet I was confused by that rider.
    05-10-2013, 01:46 AM
I would get her stifles and hocks thoroughly checked. There were some moments in the riding video that just looked not quite right to me.
    05-10-2013, 02:27 AM
Gorgeous horse, bad rider. Rider in video could not keep anything about her own body quiet, hands were almost like stroking? The reins, she was thrown off balance and legs went flailing behind her multiple times, I can only imagine that would be extremely confusing and frustrating for that horse, and what's with the treats?

With a quiet rider that gives clear signals this horse would probably work out wonderfully. Wish you well with her, and very glad it sounds like you have a solid "team" that can help you with any issues that arise.

Barring dental and tack fitting issues, her head tossing seems more like a training issue, this rider could not hold onto the reins and somewhere along the line the horse learned tossing its head was a way to "grab" the reins back and pull them right out of this "trainers" very busy hands, unfortunately all she did was reinforce the behavior by allowing it, but it should be something that can be fixed.
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    05-10-2013, 03:17 AM
I have similar feelings to those already stated about the rider/handler being more likely the source of "problems". I might look at that saddle fit, too. The horse is very uphill in build, and the saddle looks very uphill in it's balance, thus putting the rider continually behind the motion. Warmbloods are not the easiest horses to ride. Takes some getting used to.

But, she is simply spectacular, so if you do have good trainers, and you get her Prepurchase vetted (( did see her left rear foot dragging a few times at trot), she could be an amazing find for you.

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