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post #1 of 12 Old 12-10-2013, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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OTTB mare critique

Native Silver is a 6 year old OTTB mare. Raced 4 times, won once. She was bought out of a kill pen in Michigan, and ended up with me a few years later. I'm looking at using her for barrel racing, because she's only 14.3-15 hands.

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Any critique on her conformation or pedigree is appreciated. I have another post about her training, so if that's your forte, any thoughts are appreciated!
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post #2 of 12 Old 12-10-2013, 02:00 PM
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If this is her pedigree the bloodlines are some of the strongest I have seen in awhile. She is strong on top and bottom including the female tail which is strong way back where most fade. She comes from two top brood mare lines through Foolish Pleasure and Hoist the Flag. Her dam is not well known.. but was probably bred due to the influence of Hoist the Flag so close up. Her sire did his job and paid his way.

Conformation:
These photos hurt this horse more than help her. She is steep through the shoulder and has a short, non descript neck. She is slightly over at very well placed knees (cosmetic fault, not soundness fault). She may be a little knock knee'd or that shadow across her knees may be playing havoc with the optics.

Her hocks and knees are nearly the same height from the ground and she is built slightly down hill (for speed or reigning this is fine). She has decent hindquarters and has a correct.. maybe slightly straight.. hind leg. She is short backed and has a decent coupling and rounded topline through the point of croup. Her biggest fault (besides the steep shoulder and shortish neck) is the dip behind her withers. DO get a custom (barrel type) saddle for this small Thoroughbred horse. It will make all the difference in the world.

Her bone is adequate and her pastern length and angle is good.

One thing I notice is the underside of her neck has over developed muscles. You will need to work her in a long frame and get her head down.. and try to "turn her neck over." This may be a challenged due to the short neck and down hill build.

I would game this horse in a minute. She looks sturdy and compact and should have the speed.

Another thought.. and one I don't often say:
From her pedigree and if I had the $$ and time to do it.. I would even look at her again in the summer after some work and a GOOD set of photos.. thinking of breeding (as much based on her size and her lines). I think she might produce a fire cracker of a foal if bred to the right racing Quarter horse... a stud with prepotency for a nicer neck that ties to a good shoulder and withers that carry better into her back (without the dip) and good bone with powerful hind quarters. Wish "The Ole Man" or Roy Browning was still alive.. that stud or Roy would look at this mare and have sound thoughts.

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post #3 of 12 Old 12-30-2013, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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I'm thrilled with your opinion... This mare is very special to me :)

Anyone else?
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post #4 of 12 Old 12-30-2013, 08:46 PM
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Love the bloodlines and mare definitely has the potential to make a nice barrel horse. Can't wait to see some summer pics!
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post #5 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 05:18 AM
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Elana never tells people to consider breeding, so if she said your mare is good enough, consider yourself told!
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post #6 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 08:02 AM
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WOW! Impeccable breeding! She's got Foolish Pleasure, Bold Ruler, Dr Fager, War Admiral, Bold Ruler - the list of champions goes on!

Not a bad looker, either. Bet she'll be a stunner in her summer coat without those winter woolies. I like her legs too - very straight. Yup, this is one nice lookin' gal!
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post #7 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 10:49 AM
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I think Elana pretty much covered it. I agree on the downhill bit, which wont hinder her in what your looking to do with her, but would make other disciplines difficult. I also agree with the neck. This is what I like least about her. It is significantly shorter than I would like.

I agree that she would produce a nice foal with the right stud, and would like to second(and emphasize) choosing one with a much nicer neck.

Over all I think she is well suited to what you want to do, and request that you keep us updated
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post #8 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
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I'm so excited by all of your opinions. I picked her up for $300 at the beginning of November. :)

What are some good training ideas for "fixing" her neck? She never really stretches out, would something like a training fork help her learn to keep a level top line?
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post #9 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 02:00 PM
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No No No No to a training fork. Forward and down.. loose rein.. trotting with you standing in the stirrups over poles on the ground or up long hills..

Training forks, martingales and the rest will give her something to pull against. You want to encourage her to stretch forward and down and it will not be easy for her. Maybe only a few strides at a time right now. Or 1 stride. Loose rein.. forward walking (to start).

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post #10 of 12 Old 12-31-2013, 03:04 PM
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I agree with Elana (I ususally do) though I don't see her neck as steep, just normal.

Research threads here on "long and low".
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