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    08-15-2013, 06:16 PM
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Palomino Mare, Need confo critique and ideas on pricing.

Possibly thinking about buying this mare, if the price is right and she ends up having a temperament that I like. I have permission to post pics and work with her. She's located at my barn I am managing currently.

Not sure how old she is, judging by what little I know about looking at their teeth she isn't incredibly old, possibly younger(under 10). She's about 15.1 to 15.2, I will measure her soon so I know exactly.

Hasn't been handled consistently in over a year. But let me halter her up, and move her to a pasture I have my current horses in. Also groomed her, and fly sprayed her with no major complaints. Stood tied for about 20 minutes, didn't try to set back. Did stomp her feet a bit, and swished her tail around(not at flies).

The lady who owns her doesn't live in Tx any more and her daughter(that the mare was for) lives about 2-3 hours away and doesn't come to see her.

I heard they had somebody come out to try and ride her a few months ago, and apparently she bucked. I don't know how they went about riding her or what the circumstance was. Or how broke she was originally before being pastured(I am trying to find out more about this, I do believe these owners are her second owners).

How I felt from handling her was that she seemed smart, and a quick learner.

What I am concerned about with her is that she is very obese. And has not had her feet done consistently in several months, possibly a year.
Her current owners are first time horse owners.

I do think I would have to send her to a trainer after having her feet fixed up.

What I am looking for in this mare is a good trail horse, and horse I can use for pleasure riding.

I heard that the owners originally paid 1,000$ for her. And to my knowledge and barn owners knowledge she is not registered.

Mare is located west of Houston TX. What would you price this mare at in my area?

And if I could have some ideas of her conformation also please :)





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    08-15-2013, 07:10 PM
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Well firstly her hooves are in poor shape, but you probably know she's going to need some work. I live around Houston too so I know the pain of trying to find a good farrier in the area, but maybe you'll have better luck than I have xD

She is VERY light boned in the legs. I'm assuming she's halter bred which would explain it. Long back, and she's a bit fat but I'm sure you can get her trimmed down with some consistent riding. Other than being light boned her legs are nice and straight. Straight shoulder, decent hip.

Over all she's a pretty typical QH halter horse build, if that is indeed what she is. If she's an honest worker and you don't do anything too strenuous I'd say she'll be just fine. I wouldn't pay much more than $400 for her though honestly since you have no idea how broke she is. Be careful about putting too much training into her before training her, I know from experience that people are always looking for free handouts and horse training is no exception. The owner may have you do all that work then want you to pay extra money for her since she'll be broke, even though you did the breaking.
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    08-15-2013, 07:26 PM
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Well firstly her hooves are in poor shape, but you probably know she's going to need some work. I live around Houston too so I know the pain of trying to find a good farrier in the area, but maybe you'll have better luck than I have xD

She is VERY light boned in the legs. I'm assuming she's halter bred which would explain it. Long back, and she's a bit fat but I'm sure you can get her trimmed down with some consistent riding. Other than being light boned her legs are nice and straight. Straight shoulder, decent hip.

Over all she's a pretty typical QH halter horse build, if that is indeed what she is. If she's an honest worker and you don't do anything too strenuous I'd say she'll be just fine. I wouldn't pay much more than $400 for her though honestly since you have no idea how broke she is. Be careful about putting too much training into her before training her, I know from experience that people are always looking for free handouts and horse training is no exception. The owner may have you do all that work then want you to pay extra money for her since she'll be broke, even though you did the breaking.

I actually did recently find a great farrier who really seems to know his stuff. He's trimming my mare with navicular(barefoot) and she's looking better than ever. Also trimming my gelding, and gave me a lot of information about him and his bad behavior lately. Smart farrier you can pm me if you want more info to contact him.


About this mare though, I did realize she is a little fine boned. I do wish she had more bone to her. Possibly looks a little lighter in these pictures than in person. I can measure her leg bones, maybe that will help a little.

Just heard from a friend/relative of her original owner that she was actually a rescue out of San Antonio. Will send him another texts asking more about that...
So if she is registered, no papers. So basically grade.


I'm not a horse trainer, so everything I do with her is going to be very basic so I can get a feel for her temperament. Definitely wouldn't put money into a trainer for a horse I don't own!

Would light leg bone keep her from being a horse I could ride all day on trail rides?
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    08-15-2013, 07:30 PM
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For the most part I agree with endiku. I think over all she is a very attractive mare despite her faults. She is fat, but I have seen worse.

Being light boned likely wont effect her usefulness as a trail horse. Her being grade, not currently ride able, with over grown feet, I would not pay more than $400.

If you like her, buy her, trim her feet and get a trainer to put 30 days one her.
     
    08-15-2013, 07:33 PM
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I say she's light boned and that's a fault, but in reality I own a TB filly with bones so light that one of the more respected confo experts on the forum said she'd 'never seen such light bones on a horse' and I still love her to death ;) her being a bit light really shouldn't affect her as long as you're mindful of that fact, and you keep her at a good weight/condition.
     
    08-15-2013, 07:35 PM
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I'm not from your area, but I am from TX. I honestly wouldn't pay anything for her because she's not worth anything (monetarily speaking). She's an older mare, not papered, training is questionable, she may or may not have a bucking issue....

If you were looking for a project to put a lot of money into, then she's a good place to look, but be prepared for the possibility that she may have behavioral issues that can't be fixed enough to ever trust her.

Physically, I don't see anything that would prevent her from being a really nice trail horse though.
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    08-15-2013, 07:36 PM
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@ blue spark: yes exactly what I was planning to do...feet and trainer for 30days.

I think she's a bit fatter than these pictures let on :) I was surprised she doesn't have the fat neck most horses get when over weight. Her hind end and tail head are very very thick/fat though. Possibly her bone looks lighter than it is because of how overweight she is?
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    08-15-2013, 07:40 PM
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Offer $350 cash and see what happens. Decent looking mare...
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    08-15-2013, 07:42 PM
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I'm not from your area, but I am from TX. I honestly wouldn't pay anything for her because she's not worth anything (monetarily speaking). She's an older mare, not papered, training is questionable, she may or may not have a bucking issue....

If you were looking for a project to put a lot of money into, then she's a good place to look, but be prepared for the possibility that she may have behavioral issues that can't be fixed enough to ever trust her.

Physically, I don't see anything that would prevent her from being a really nice trail horse though.
I didn't plan to offer more than 300$ for her honestly. I would tell them if they got a higher offer then to go for it, but I would offer very low on her. The barn owner told me that about 6 months ago her current owner was thinking she could resell the mare for a lot more..... Don't know why....first time owner confusion probably.....

Not really looking for a project, so if she does end up being more than what I'm looking for I won't express more interest in her.
Really what had me interested is that I didn't see any glaring conformation issues, and she appears to be an easy keeper. She also gets a scoop of 12% feed am&pm from the barn owner, which is why I think she is so fat.


(I am on from my phone right now, sorry or separate replies)
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    08-15-2013, 08:46 PM
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I just measured her, she's 15.2 hands. Possibly some of that is fat on her withers :)
Don't know how reliable the weight tapes are either, but it said she is around 1,100 pounds.

Around the front cannon bone area it measured approx 8.25 inches and the rear was 8.7 inches. Not sure what the average bone circumference is..

Also have a picture of the bottom of one of her front feet...will post later when I'm on the computer...the hoof wall is very over grown in the back...

But she was good about me picking up her feet and came to me in the pasture.
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