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        01-24-2014, 08:20 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elana    
    OK.. here is how he is bow legged behind. Not cow hocked. His hind feet point straight forward forcing his hocks OUT. See the red lines. The blue lines show approximately how the feet should point. The hind leg is a spiral construction (like a spring). So the hind feet need to point out to accommodate that physics.

    I LOVE this horse's expression and head.. circled his head in green for that reason.

    The shoulder is lovely because it lays back and has a nice open angle at the point of shoulder from scapula to humerus. A lot of quarterhorses have a closed angle at the point of shoulder. He is tied at the knee and light boned.. arrows to show this. And the marks on his back to show the long coupling. I wish the peak of croup were further forward between the two lines on his back.
    Thank you! I really appreciate you showing me how you did this! Is there any way I could make him not so light boned? And will him being a little bowlegged effect how he competes? (im hoping for him to be my up and coming barrel horse) and do they grow out of some of those things you mentioned? These are pictures from a year or two ago and I haven't noticed any faults but then again I'm new to this :)
         
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        01-24-2014, 08:24 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    I agree with most of what you said except the shoulder. For a nice slope to the shoulder, you want a closed angle, not an open one. An open shoulder angle means steep and I might his shoulder on the steep side.

    I DO agree about the lack of bone in all four legs; he has longer cannons, not a lot of solid bone and he does tie in at the knee. What I love about this horse is his back length....pretty darn perfect if you ask me, at least from the one side shot. It also appears to be level across, neither uphill or downhill.....like that. Someone mentioned lower hocks, but his hocks are pretty much is line with his knees....so for him, they suit well.
    Thank you! He has quite a few World Champion Halter horses closely related to him so he can't be too screwed up... ;)
         
        01-24-2014, 09:04 PM
      #13
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by sparkoflife    
    Thank you! He has quite a few World Champion Halter horses closely related to him so he can't be too screwed up... ;)
    can you post his pedigree? Most halter horses are terrible examples of ideal conformation...pretty bad to be axact. So I'm glad that he doesn't show your typical halter horse conformation.
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        01-25-2014, 02:06 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    can you post his pedigree? Most halter horses are terrible examples of ideal conformation...pretty bad to be axact. So I'm glad that he doesn't show your typical halter horse conformation.
    Hopefully the link will work, if not, ill give you his name and stuff so you can look it up.


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        01-25-2014, 02:07 PM
      #15
    Foal
    I'm pretty sure he has more halter horses in him, but I know for sure his grandsire was one. Wish I knew his sire so I could know what else he's bred for
         
        01-25-2014, 02:10 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    ^ you don't have his registration papers?
         
        01-25-2014, 02:16 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
    ^ you don't have his registration papers?
    he can't be registered. I got him from a rescue and they didnt know who his sire was. And the guy they got him from refused to sign the papers saying he's 100% QH :/
    Im hoping that I can convince the guy to sign them though
         
        01-25-2014, 09:58 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I'm not a big QH person, but I like him.
         
        01-26-2014, 08:44 AM
      #19
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wakiya    
    I'm not a big QH person, but I like him.
    Aww thanks!!
         
        01-26-2014, 09:22 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    GotaDunQH I must disagree (and I do not often disagree with you) with your statement regarding an open angle at the point of shoulder. If this angle is less than 90 degrees, the shoulder is incorrect. A LOT of Quarterhorses have a closed angle at the point of shoulder and the humerus lays quite flat.

    An open angle and laid back shoulder (this shoulder could lay back a bit more) allows for free-er action in the front leg and more reach. Over fences, you need laid back AND open so the horse can get his knees UP and fold his front legs. Knees level (or not even level) and front legs hanging are based in physics (shoulder construction and neck tie in) not in individual style.

    Fore things such as WP etc the open angle at the point of shoulder may not be as important and it may actually produce the down hill trot and lope that is popular there.. but it makes for a horse that has less scope in his front end.
         

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