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    03-06-2012, 01:38 AM
I wouldn't necessarily let his age scare you at this point. I only really have experience with Arabs and NSH and they seem to age at a much slower rate than other breeds. I know a great NSH mare that is still very competitive in her late 20's. Most of the horses I ride are older than this guy and none have showed signs of slowing any yet.

He sounds fantastic for a beginner, but I agree with tiny, learning about his past will give you a better idea if he'd make a good horse for you.
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    03-06-2012, 01:38 AM
He's got that long, skinny, pencil neck that so many Saddlebreds have. I think it's an aquired taste, I LOVE those flexible necks. He's standing pretty far over himself, so I hesitate to say anything about his shoulder. I'd like to see a bit more weight & muscle on his hind end, but if you start riding him regularly, that is a self correcting issue.
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    03-06-2012, 01:54 AM
Ok, here's my buying story for those who don't know:

I went to see a horse listed as a grade trail horse. The guy didnt really know what he was, just got him for his daughters to ride for fun. They werent as interested as he thought so he decided to sell him.

I went with a friend and we both rode him. He was very dirty, looked like he hadn't been groomed in a long time, and his feet were long, but otherwise ok. He rode awesome! He went strait from a walk to a beautiful slow lope and was soo sweet and responsive we decided to take him. I paid only $300.

I got him home, cleaned him up, and found a brand on the side of his neck. I looked it up and found out that it was a racing brand. Palmer, or registered name "Palmer Seelster" was an old Standardbred sulky racer. I was able to get all his history and records online. I contacted his old racing owner and found out that a suspensory injury ended his career.

Of course a week after I got him I noticed something wrong and took him to the vet. He was diagnosed partially lame in his left stifle and only sound for light riding. He's on supplements and meds, but nothings working. I'm going to see specialist and get x-rays, but in the end my vet said don't get your hopes up.

I have since been looking into other horses and being much more careful about what I get. I almost got a beautiful Appy mare with wonderful conformantion and the spunkiest sassy attitude... only to contact her vet through my own job and found out she had laminitis in the past :/ I also looked into a spotted saddlebred, only to contact his first owner and found out that the current owners lied about everything he had done in the past.

Needless to say, I havent had a good time finding my ideal horse.
    03-06-2012, 01:55 AM
He has a tiny bit of roach to his back, very small bump just in front of the hip. Also, he looks a bit overweight. Will you test for Cushings?
    03-06-2012, 02:03 AM
I didnt know that I should. Could you give me more info on it?
    03-06-2012, 02:07 AM
It's a disorder that older horse sometimes get, I think it's a metabolic issue. I actually don't know that much about it, and don't have any really strong reason to think that he might have it. But, if an older horse is overweight, and if they tend to hang onto their winter coat longer than normal, grow a longer than typical coat and develop a 'cresty" neck, these are signs of Cushings. It can be managed with medication.

In buying an older horse I would really want to know a lot about it's health background. I guess I am a bit wary, why do they want to sell it?
    03-06-2012, 02:12 AM
She can't afford his boarding anymore.
    03-06-2012, 02:17 AM
Ok just for fun, what do you think of my 17 year old 17hh Standardbred gelding? This photos were from the day I brought him home, he looks a little better already.

    03-06-2012, 12:43 PM
Let me preface my comments with, I like MY horses ROUND. Not obese, not cresty but ROUNDED on all the corners.

With that said, I think both horses could use some weight. I love the face on your Standard Bred and as a breed, I love them. Your gelding has the sweetest look on his face, just happy looking.

I see the hump on the Saddlebred's back but not sure if it's the picture or ?????. It looks to be far enough back to not effect a saddle, so wouldn't worry too much about it unless your vet says it's an issue. If your vet feels Cushings is a concern there are a couple different tests that can be done to check. As an owner, in spring and fall especially, I would not allow the Dex Testing pre-purchase as that has been known to cause as many problems as it has diagnosed.
    03-06-2012, 02:41 PM

I'm fairly sure I see a hunter's bump on both pics of the Saddlebred x. Tons of horses have it and it shouldn't bother him or with saddle fitting.
I like him very much. He looks to be in pretty good condition and if he's as nice as they say - run on over with the money.

No worries about his age, if he vet checks ok. Saddlebreds and Arabians age well and usually have long, productive lives. My granddaughter has one who is almost 30. He is all go, go, go, out on the trails. And this horse didn't even have a particularly good life, before my daughter got him.

A few years ago, we rescued a huge, black, old movie horse. Movie horses often have hard lives and he's been in a ton of westerns. We rehomed him with a good friend of ours. Well he's coming up to 40 years old now and still going strong. A bit of arthritis, but other than that, is in surprisingly good condition.

I shall hope to hear this nice gelding is home with you soon.

I am sorry to hear about your Standardbred. Hopefully he will be ok for some light riding in time.


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